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Title: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Oct 10, 2010, 02:51 am
Today I managed to find a good condition used Fluke PM3380B 100 MHz scope; its a dual-trace, combination digital/analog scope with an RS232 interface (allows you to control the scope, as well as grab data from it). I might have over-payed a bit for it (got it for $200.00), but it seems to be a very nice scope.

I'm not sure what I am going to do with my Tek 2213; I might sell it, I might keep it - not sure.

BTW - the place where I got the scope (Apache Reclamation here in Phoenix) still has a couple Fluke PM3370 60 MHz scopes (for $200.00 each); they are basically the same as the PM3380 (incl the RS232 interface), just lower bandwidth. I tested one there, and it seems solid - I didn't test the other. Just thought I would pass it on.

A manual can be found @ Fluke's website.

These seem like great scopes...there's a ton of functionality available, and the ability to switch between analog and digital mode (it uses a CRT for display) is pretty nice...

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: jezuz on Oct 10, 2010, 06:15 am
Does the place you got the scope ship?
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Oct 10, 2010, 11:59 am
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Does the place you got the scope ship?


I honestly don't know! To describe the place, imagine a large indoor junkyard (they also have a separate large outdoor junkyard as well), where things come and go, and organization is almost non-existant. Imagine a lot of dust, dirt, and a few cats. Imagine piles of wire to the ceiling.

Even that description doesn't do justice to the reality of the place!

They very well might ship it to you; they typically deal in large quantities of surplus and junk (think semi-loads) - perhaps they would box it up and ship it?

Apache Reclamation & Electronics, Inc.
313 W. Apache Street, Phoenix, Arizona 85003
602-254-0613

They aren't open tomorrow, but will be on Monday. Good luck!

:)
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: AlphaZeta on Oct 10, 2010, 04:42 pm
Hey cr0sh. Could you share a few pictures?
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: Jeremy1998 on Oct 10, 2010, 07:28 pm
I might just have to stop by this place some day... It sounds like a bigger version of my house... Even the cats!!!

And I might have to meet you some day, Cr0sh... You sound like a cool guy!
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: jezuz on Oct 10, 2010, 08:27 pm
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And I might have to meet you some day, Cr0sh... You sound like a cool guy!


creepy over internet invitation to meet with an older guy is creepy.
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: Jeremy1998 on Oct 10, 2010, 08:33 pm
Oh, please! I was talking at like an arduino meeting...
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: jezuz on Oct 10, 2010, 08:34 pm
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Oh, please! I was talking at like an arduino meeting...


That's what you want Chris Hansen to think, but I don't believe it for one second.
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: Osgeld on Oct 10, 2010, 08:37 pm
dont forget the wine coolers!
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: Jeremy1998 on Oct 10, 2010, 08:41 pm
^^^^^
I wish... I'm 12...
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Oct 10, 2010, 08:52 pm
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Hey cr0sh. Could you share a few pictures?


These aren't pics of my scope - but they are pics of a 3380A/B I found on the internet (and rehosted @ imageshack):

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4136/scope1.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3236/osc03502ch1y2large.jpg

They're kinda big - so I didn't inline 'em...

There's little difference cosmetically between the A & B versions; the A has a smaller sampling record length (4000 pts vs 8000 on the B; though I imagine the A can be expanded in memory, just like the B can), and half the max single channel sample rate of the B (100 MSa/s vs 200 MSa/s). There might be other differences, but they're all likely to be similar "internal" differences.

:)
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Oct 10, 2010, 08:57 pm
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dont forget the wine coolers!


Man - all you people need help!

;D

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And I might have to meet you some day, Cr0sh... You sound like a cool guy!


Trust me on this - I'm not. I've been known to make hard-core geek's eyes "glaze over" in discussion; I'm really that boring. My real-world personality isn't anything to remark upon; my online "persona" is much more articulate.

Yet somehow, I'm married to a wonderful gal who understands me, as far as I can ever be understood by someone else.
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: transontung90 on Oct 13, 2010, 06:52 am
hehe i new too , gonna be 20 soon

happy birthday anyway
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: pwillard on Oct 13, 2010, 11:43 pm
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Trust me on this - I'm not. I've been known to make hard-core geek's eyes "glaze over" in discussion; I'm really that boring. My real-world personality isn't anything to remark upon; my online "persona" is much more articulate.

Yet somehow, I'm married to a wonderful gal who understands me, as far as I can ever be understood by someone else.


You and I must be twins separated at birth... It must have been that COCO influence at an early age.  
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: daveg360 on Oct 14, 2010, 08:27 pm
Don't be hard on yourself cr0sh.  I can clearly see in your picture that you also have a very fine hat.  :P
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: yo6kba on Jan 02, 2011, 11:46 am
Hi ,
I have Fluke PM3370A , the CRT display do not start up , pleace help with anny info , I want to repair , I nead  service manual or schematics or info for repair . Thankyou and "Happy New Year !!!"

Costas
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Jan 02, 2011, 06:06 pm
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I have Fluke PM3370A , the CRT display do not start up , pleace help with anny info , I want to repair , I nead  service manual or schematics or info for repair . Thankyou and "Happy New Year !!!"


costas, I haven't managed to find the service manual for my Fluke PM3380B, despite looking for it. All I've been able to find has been the user and reference manuals. These scopes aren't exactly recent, and I doubt you would have luck getting it repaired outside of perhaps sending it to an authorized Fluke service center (and if you needed the CRT replaced - well, good luck there).

You might look into contacting such a service center first, if you have one nearby (because shipping alone for the size of the scope and packaging isn't going to be small). Maybe you can call and talk with someone who can give you some help, or maybe even sell you a copy of the service manual if all else fails.

It might be a wash, sorry to say; nowadays you can get a good Rigol and a few other DSOs for little money - maybe the universe is trying to tell you something...?

Good luck - and if anyone else knows of a reference manual for these scopes, please post a link to it here!

:)
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: yo6kba on Jan 02, 2011, 07:58 pm
Hi cr0sh
Thanks for quick response
I make some  measurements on the high-voltage block  and I think the fault is in the high voltage transformer (high voltage rectifier is good) or with or without him I have a strange noise coming from the transformer, I measured the pulse frequency signal on the High voltage transformer  and is not stable , varies between 4.2 and 4.7 kHz (I think this should be at 15kHz) , without high voltage rectifier frequency signal  climb to 7-7.5 kHz  but it is not stable. now I looking  for a transformer (model: TEHNOTION 4022 73 971 369 9839) I don't know if  easily find or only from Fluke factory.  Do you knows a source of spare parts for Fluke ? I have to repair Fluke 45  and needs analog to digital converter device (error 8) ....
I will tell you the news that appear on this oscilloscope
WBR
Costas
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: keeper63 on Jan 02, 2011, 09:56 pm
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Do you knows a source of spare parts for Fluke ?


First off, know that I don't anything about repairing an oscilloscope; I wouldn't even know where to begin, so you have that up on me with your testing!

;)

For parts, you might try getting in contact with this company:

http://www.qservice.tv/

They helped me get a "new" (surplus) implosion shield for my Tek 2213 (it was actually a spare from some East European country); it wasn't very expensive, and they were very responsive with their entire order and service process. I was very impressed with them as a company.

I can't promise you it will work out, but its someplace to start, at least!
Title: Re: Happy Day - I got a "new" scope...
Post by: yo6kba on Jan 10, 2011, 07:34 am
Hi.
Finaly I succed to fix this combiscope , I found C1131 - 10nF/3Kv with 5Mohm internal rezistence , and L1131 discontinued , now everithing is fine , osciloscop is working .

WBR
Costas