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Title: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: neodali on Aug 24, 2019, 01:06 pm
Hi,

I have some breadboards and always the same problems, though I use DuPont jumping wires.
The quality of the contacts is very bad, and I can spend hours in checking those false contacts.

I have tried BB830 BB without any success.

My question is, is there a good reliable breadbord ?

Thank you very much
Frainck
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Aug 24, 2019, 03:05 pm
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My question is, is there a good reliable breadbord ?
While others may disagree I would say no, solderless bread boards are only suitable for the very simplest of test circuits. I avoid them at all cost and tend to solder everything using strip board.
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: 3Dgeo on Aug 24, 2019, 03:13 pm
Howdy,

strange enough - I use cheapest bread boards and jumper cables from Aliexpress (http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qWytcpK0) and I have to say that I have very few issues with them if any and trust me when I say I'm doing massive breadboard wiring when I'm testing my circuit design.

I thought that Dupont jumper wires were superior to cheap round chines cables, but I'm starting to change my opinion - for massive breadboarding usually I have to squeeze many wires and Dupond cables being not solid core (bend C shape metal) just bends or even breaks if bent, but cheep chinies even if bent holds good connection and don't break off. Disadvantages of cheap round cables are that they are often (may be) a bit wider than bread board pitch, so they don't align properly and that round plastic part tends to fell off.
Also some types of cheap wires tends to beak where they meat plastic due to it being glued on with super glue.
But at that price cheap cables can be considered disposable...
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Aug 24, 2019, 03:25 pm
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and trust me when I say I'm doing massive breadboard wiring when I'm testing my circuit design.
I assume you are a beginner. I have been doing electronics for about 50 years and I quickly came to the conclusion that they are more trouble than they are worth. When your first fault finding action is to waggle the wires you know that is not time well spent.

The breadboard connectors will loose their grip over time, especially when a variety of different components are persuaded to be fitted on the board.
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: 3Dgeo on Aug 24, 2019, 03:40 pm
Well, I guess it depends.

I tend to value my time more than few new bradboards time to time. Also when soldered there is no quick way to change everything. I'm not saying that breadboarding is the best way, all I'm saying is that it works for me and util it will I'm not going to trade its advantages. Also I think discussion about soldering vs bradboarding is out of topic in this thread - as I understand author wanted to find a way to improve breadboarding, which I've tried to do by sharing my experience.
 
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Aug 24, 2019, 05:17 pm
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Also when soldered there is no quick way to change everything
I think you are using your strip board incorrectly if you think that.

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as I understand author wanted to find a way to improve breadboarding,
Well no he said
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My question is, is there a good reliable breadbord ?
To which my opinion is no. Yours might well be different, but giving the better option to a bread board is not out of topic for this thread especially when your answer is no.
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: larryd on Aug 24, 2019, 05:22 pm
"I use DuPont jumping wires."

Many inexpensive Dupont jumper wires are not made properly.

Making your own is a skill I suggest you should learn.

https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=376971.0;attach=153794  (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=376971.0;attach=153794)

Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: 3Dgeo on Aug 24, 2019, 05:33 pm
Your just ignoring what I wrote before and just being a fan boy of "your way"...
You can use strip board as fast as you like - that's your preference, do whatever tickles your pickle. My preference is time so I use breadboard and my pickle is tickled as well.
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: PerryBebbington on Aug 24, 2019, 09:22 pm

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My question is, is there a good reliable breadboard?
YES! I bought some made by CSC when I was a teenager, which makes it about 40 years old. Never had a problem with it.

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I use DuPont jumping wires.
Pointless. I used solid core wire with stripped bare ends. Wire taken from telephone cable (that's the business I'm in). Make sure you get proper, copper cable, not CCA (copper coated aluminium) or worse, CCS (copper coated steel).





Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: Paul__B on Aug 25, 2019, 12:10 am
Many inexpensive Dupont jumper wires are not made properly.
Including - as Perry mentions - not using "real wire"!  :smiley-eek:

Was I ever pissed off when I found you could not solder to it!

I used solid core wire with stripped bare ends. Wire taken from telephone cable (that's the business I'm in)
Keep an eye out for major telecoms works - Chunks of old cable lying about or obtained on request.

Mind you, that's only old telecoms works.  :smiley-lol:
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: DrAzzy on Aug 25, 2019, 04:45 am
My experience has been that once a full size (ex, "0.1" pin header pin,  but not machined pin header) pin has  been pluged into a given hole, that hole is dead for any other type of pin.

Even solderless breadboard that hasn't been abused in that way can be reliable. IMO soldering is where it's at. Use solderable breadboard. Oh hey, guess what I happen to sell... 2x4" pieces of prototyping board (https://www.tindie.com/products/5120/)
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: PerryBebbington on Aug 25, 2019, 09:25 am

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Mind you, that's only old telecoms works
Yeah, I don't think off cuts of optical fibre plugged into breadboard is going to work very well. (Waits for a question by one of our less intelligent  noobs...)

Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: PaulRB on Aug 25, 2019, 05:51 pm
Waits for a question by one of our less intelligent  noobs...
Why don't you enlighten them?  ;)

But this question has come up many times in the forum. @OP you really should use the forum search function.
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: MarkT on Aug 25, 2019, 08:16 pm
My post #15 here is my recommendations: https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=561265.15 (https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=561265.15)
Title: Re: Which solderless breadboard?
Post by: PaulRB on Aug 26, 2019, 12:11 am
My post #15 here is my recommendations:
Seconded.