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Title: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: Robin2 on Nov 30, 2019, 11:07 am
There is nothing funny about this but I reckon it may get more views here than in the General Discussion section.


I wonder if people here have seen this Video that has been prepared by YouTube https://youtu.be/-JzXiSkoFKw (https://youtu.be/-JzXiSkoFKw)

It seems that videos that have content that would appeal to children have to be specially identified even though the video is intended for adults. Also this seems to have little or nothing to do with appropriateness of the content but rather about the fact that YouTube harvests data from viewers and must ensure that it does not do so from child viewers.

There seems to be a risk of a $42,000 fine per video for people who breach the USA "COPPA" law.


I came across this because of my interest in model railways, and a number of model railway people have also posted YouTube videos about their concerns. Programming Arduinos may be somewhat less attractive to young children than model trains, but I'm sure there are many Arduino-based projects that would be very attractive when demoed in their completed state.

...R
Title: Re: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: ballscrewbob on Nov 30, 2019, 05:04 pm
As you are not based in the US I assume it would be fair to say thier law does not apply although they seem to be pushing to get thier laws to be recognised world wide to ease extradition and prosecution.
( read OVERREACH into that ).
UK has already rebuked a few attempts at that and stalled on others.

Bob.

Title: Re: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: Robin2 on Nov 30, 2019, 05:32 pm
You may ultimately be correct but I have heard it said that by agreeing to YouTube's terms and conditions you also subject yourself to US law. And there could be a very high legal bill before the question of whether the rules apply in the UK is decided.

It should also be borne in mind that the intent behind the changes is probably shared by most people in the UK (and elsewhere) - keeping the identity of child viewers anonymous. It is the unintended consequences of the way YouTube plans to implement the law that are the cause of concern.

Obviously it is for each person to make his/her own decision but I think it would be unwise for anyone posting videos on YouTube to continue blindly without thinking seriously about their legal position.


...R
Title: Re: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: ballscrewbob on Nov 30, 2019, 05:57 pm
Thankfully there are still a lot of common sense laws in the UK and it is not yet as corrupt as the US in that regard.

I do see your point about protecting children and agree with that 100%
There has nearly always been a rider in those legal agreements where it allows for the laws of another sovereign nation to over ride the ones you may have to agree with to use another persons service.

Not read up on it myself as any videos I do have up are mostly tech stuff and don't include kids etc.
So in my case it would not apply unless I have to protect the identity of my screen which I occasionally swear at.

Bob.


Title: Re: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: Robin2 on Nov 30, 2019, 08:49 pm
Not read up on it myself as any videos I do have up are mostly tech stuff and don't include kids etc.
The concern seems to be about stuff in a video that kids might enjoy (such as radio controlled models (trains, cars etc), or maybe even a useless-box) even though they are not aimed at kids.

...R
Title: Re: YouTube changes - COPPA
Post by: westfw on Dec 04, 2019, 10:56 am
I dunno.  I think there's a big difference between "content produced for kids", and technical content posted that some kids might be interested in.  Arduino-related content might be interesting to some, but I doubt that it'd ever be classified as "produced for kids."  Model trains is slightly more ambiguous, but unless you feature 8-y olds playing with Tomas the Tank Engine models, you PROBABLY don't count as "creating content for kids."  I'd doubt that any non-monetized accounts are really applicable...