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Title: New privacy policy
Post by: larryd on Apr 22, 2020, 10:36 pm
Anyone else having to confirm they have read the new privacy statement, every 20 minutes. ???

About 8 times today so far.




Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Robin2 on Apr 22, 2020, 11:05 pm
Yeah - real PITA.

I discovered that if I click outside the message window the message goes away.

...R
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: UKHeliBob on Apr 22, 2020, 11:45 pm
I have not seen that (yet)
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: MAS3 on Apr 23, 2020, 12:02 am
Yep, me too.
Had to log in when i came through the front door, and then accept the new policy.
And just now i had to do that again.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Apr 23, 2020, 12:52 am
Same problem here too.
Frequent forced logins the last few days, and now the forced ass-covering privacy statement pop-ups.
The only ones who read that are the lawyers themselves.
Leo..
Title: New nuisance policy
Post by: Paul__B on Apr 23, 2020, 01:08 am
OK, so I did a "Report to moderator" on that just to see (optimistic) if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the managers.  Hope I don't upset them ...

The recurrent random log-ins have been a problem for a long time.

What I have noticed recently, is that the "Quote" widget at the lower right of the post will only work a proportion of the time,   Some bizarre JavaScript foul-up.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Apr 23, 2020, 01:30 am
OK, so I did a "Report to moderator" on that just to see (optimistic) if anyone has any ideas on how to get to the managers.  Hope I don't upset them ...

The recurrent random log-ins have been a problem for a long time.

What I have noticed recently, is that the "Quote" widget at the lower right of the post will only work a proportion of the time,   Some bizarre JavaScript foul-up.
Ok I  closed that report as it seemed pretty random  :smiley-lol:

Yep it just got pushed upstairs too.

Seeing it here as well.

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: cattledog on Apr 23, 2020, 01:39 am
More worrying than the frequent privacy statement pop-ups is the fact that website modifications can be so so poorly tested before release.

If indeed this was tested and someone actually thought that the recurrent popups were acceptable than I'd be even more concerned.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Apr 23, 2020, 01:41 am
I dont get the repeating log ins though unless I clean up (a lot) Otherwise once I am in I am IN.

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: larryd on Apr 23, 2020, 02:38 am
Okay, in the last 10 minutes I was ask to read the privacy policy 4 times.

iPad
Chrome.


Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: dougp on Apr 23, 2020, 02:56 am
Unendingly.  Win10.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: srnet on Apr 23, 2020, 04:38 am
Maybe the repeated requests to accept the 'New' privacy policy (I get them too) are a ruse to get us used to agreeing to new conditions without reading them ?


Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Apr 23, 2020, 07:12 am
After seeing this nuisance about 25 times in the last few hours I decided to add it to AdblockPlus.

forum.arduino.cc##.modal-body

Now I only have a darkened screen when the pop-up is there,
but I can easily fix that by clicking once anywhere on the screen.

Another one added to these previous ones:
forum.arduino.cc##.main-nav
forum.arduino.cc##.arduino-nav
forum.arduino.cc###header
forum.arduino.cc##.temporary
Leo..
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: wno158 on Apr 23, 2020, 07:46 am
Same issue here on Windows 10 and Edge.

But I just ticked the "accept" box. I'll try if really reading them helps.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: UKHeliBob on Apr 23, 2020, 08:33 am
It has started happening to me now
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Riva on Apr 23, 2020, 08:48 am
It sure seems like this site is trying to discourage me from visiting.
Having to log in twice to access the forum every visit and now random privacy pop-ups every few mouse clicks.

Is this GDPR related or Arduino's desire to harvest more data from the users here.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: sterretje on Apr 23, 2020, 08:51 am
Happens to me (nearly) every time that I change to another subforum; might be coincedence. Also happened after posting a quick reply (had just agreed).

I'll try if really reading them helps.
No, I went partially through that; not sure if there is a button at the end; would be ridiculous.

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: TheMemberFormerlyKnownAsAWOL on Apr 23, 2020, 08:59 am
More worrying than the frequent privacy statement pop-ups is the fact that website modifications can be so so poorly tested before release.
+1.

Depressing, isn't it?
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: RayLivingston on Apr 23, 2020, 09:01 am
Anyone else having to confirm they have read the new privacy statement, every 20 minutes. ???

About 8 times today so far.
I WISH it was only 8 times!  It is EVERY GD time I refresh the page!  It is INFURIATING!!

FIX THIS!!!!

Regards,
Ray L.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: sterretje on Apr 23, 2020, 09:25 am
Win10, Firefox 75.0

I now cleared the cookies and cached data and it still popped up the message (after login) :(
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Paul__B on Apr 23, 2020, 09:46 am
But I just ticked the "accept" box. I'll try if really reading them helps.
I cannot imagine it would.

And (not using Windoze at home in any case) I very much doubt it could in any way be OS or browser specific.

It's just what you call a "fault" (syn. "bug", "gremlin").  Or if Micro$oft, a "feature".   :smiley-lol:

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: UKHeliBob on Apr 23, 2020, 10:04 am
Quote
It's just what you call a "fault" (syn. "bug", "gremlin").  Or if Micro$oft, a "feature".
No, it is either a change to the software that has not been tested properly or a change to the environment in which it runs which has not been tested properly

Either way it is a bl**dy nuisance

Does it happen with both Windows and Linux I wonder
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Robin2 on Apr 23, 2020, 10:08 am
It's not even effective at getting people to accept the new terms (are there any changes?) because the message goes away when I click outside the message box (as mentioned in Reply #1).

Kids in the first semester of Web Programming 101 would get a FAIL for this





And if there are changes to the terms, what has changed?


...R
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Paul__B on Apr 23, 2020, 02:55 pm
Does it happen with both Windows and Linux I wonder
That is what I was pointing out.  :smiley-roll:
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Apr 23, 2020, 03:46 pm
Well nothing bad this morning so far so I guess it was fixed (for now)

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: sterretje on Apr 23, 2020, 07:17 pm
Well nothing bad this morning so far so I guess it was fixed (for now)
You mean evening :)
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Paul__B on Apr 26, 2020, 12:40 am
Morning/ evening ...

Does seem to have settled.

Basically, I consider the need to re-login at all, inside of a couple of months at least, a bug.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 am
Coders have probably worked for Micro$oft before.

"Fix it until it's broken"

No more problems here too.
Keeping my previously mentioned add block definitions in though.
Can't stand those hopping and reading area reducing green bars on the forum pages.
They should only use them on the advertising pages if they feel like they have to.
Leo..
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: dougp on Apr 26, 2020, 01:11 am
Can't stand those hopping and reading area reducing green bars on the forum pages.
They should only use them on the advertising pages if they feel like they have to.
Leo..
+1
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Riva on Apr 26, 2020, 09:35 am
Not had privacy policy popups for a while but that might be because I block them now.  :)
I still need to sign in twice to access the forum every time I opened the browser so I used to keep it open all day but now I notice site signs me out after a few hours (or less) so I have this annoying double sign in more than I care for.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Apr 26, 2020, 03:36 pm
Not seeing anything close to that Riva.
Can leave it signed in overnight with no issues.
Chrome here.



Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Riva on Apr 27, 2020, 09:25 am
Not seeing anything close to that Riva.
Can leave it signed in overnight with no issues.
Strange, it used to stay signed in overnight (and with PC in standby) until a couple or so days ago and now I get logged out using FF75.
I will remove the Privacy Policy block and see if things change.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: sterretje on Apr 27, 2020, 03:01 pm
@Riva
Maybe it helps to clear the browser cache and cookies.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Riva on Apr 27, 2020, 06:30 pm
@Riva
Maybe it helps to clear the browser cache and cookies.
I always browse using a private window so AFAIK all is cleared on exit.
I have removed the privacy policy block from uBlock Origin and it seems to remain logged in again. Will know better tomorrow.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Apr 30, 2020, 01:14 am
Had another forced login after several days without problems.
Seems they are set on their way to implement this ass-covering 'feature', and break things along the way.
Leo..
Title: Garbage on screen
Post by: Paul__B on Jun 28, 2020, 10:42 am
Can't stand those hopping and reading area reducing green bars on the forum pages.
They should only use them on the advertising pages if they feel like they have to.
Now that is a real nuisance.

They serve no purpose on the forum except occasionally to find the "C" references and occasionally to locate which "tutorial" to complain about.  :smiley-lol:

Particularly bad on a small-screen "notebook" or such.  Just checked my 10" tablet and that useless bar occupies 11 mm (10%) of the screen space.  It should only ever appear at the top of the page and scroll away.  :smiley-roll-sweat:
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Jun 28, 2020, 04:34 pm
Cmon there are a 100+ add killers out there that make the internet a much nicer place.
Almost all browsers have the ability to use those add-on's

I find it actually speeds up most of my browsing as the adverts get killed BEFORE loading up.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy..


Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Jun 28, 2020, 11:38 pm
I posted the four definitions to block the hopping green forum bars in post#12.
The forum would be an annoying place (for me) without them.

Just temporary disable the add blocker when you need to login or do something else.
Leo..

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Jun 29, 2020, 12:21 am
I dont need to disable anything for logins with my blocker.
Apart from the buggy forum software we currently have everything else just works.

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Wawa on Jun 29, 2020, 11:57 am
I dont need to disable anything for logins with my blocker.
Then you haven't removed the top green bar with the store/software/... tabs and the login icon.
The four AddBlockPlus definitions hide that as well, so you have more screen area for the forum.
Leo..
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Jun 29, 2020, 02:18 pm
I find I use that particular bar more frequently as a moderator.
Besides that is squishes up anyway so it doesn't bother me as I am almost always at the bottom of a set of posts.

Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: Paul__B on Jun 30, 2020, 05:49 pm
I find I use that particular bar more frequently as a moderator.
Besides that is squishes up anyway so it doesn't bother me as I am almost always at the bottom of a set of posts.
But that does not help when you are on a tablet.

Properly coded, it should be no more than a thin line and auto-hide like your taskbar.

And when I say "Properly coded", I am reminded of a widget which supposedly works with our Australian medical practice software - "Best Practice" or "Medical Director" (or "Genie"?) - called "topbar" which is coded by some cowboys and only works at all if your main Windoze taskbar is on the bottom of the screen.  Actually, it so badly fouls up that one tends to simply not re-install it after a few months of repeated failures.  :smiley-cool:

For what do you use the cyan bar as a moderator - and what would be wrong with just having it at the top of the page and scrolling off?
Title: One forum annoyance gone!
Post by: Paul__B on Jun 30, 2020, 06:12 pm
Then you haven't removed the top green bar with the store/software/... tabs and the login icon.
The four AddBlockPlus definitions hide that as well, so you have more screen area for the forum.
Leo..
Fantastic!   :smiley-cool:

I added simply "forum.arduino.cc##.arduino-nav.collapsed" and it performs the job perfectly!  The top bar appears at the top of the page and disappears as soon as you scroll down.

Something else happened though!

In the place of the nuisance cyan bar, an orange message "Loading" and horizontal rule appear when the  failure to respond to clicking "Quote" that I mentioned in #5, occurs, and clears when it eventually correctly responds to clicking "Quote".

Just fascinating, but I am really happy now!  :smiley-lol:
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: sterretje on Jun 30, 2020, 06:54 pm
Something else happened though!

In the place of the nuisance cyan bar, an orange message "Loading" and horizontal rule appear when the  failure to respond to clicking "Quote" that I mentioned in #5, occurs, and clears when it eventually correctly responds to clicking "Quote".
I've noticed that "Loading" as well since a cople of days. Not having made your change myself, it's not related to your change.
Title: Re: New privacy policy
Post by: ballscrewbob on Jun 30, 2020, 08:51 pm
The "LOADING" is part and parcel of the other general forum bugs.
It can last up to two clicks or maybe even need a page refresh F5 to get past it.