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GoForSmoke

#30
Dec 11, 2012, 03:18 am

But not the 3_4_5 thing and all the rest.

That's because there is no 3_4_5 thing. The rest is fundamental relationships you can't understand without advanced math and coincidental digits.

You do the math you get to see it. There's no other way. You don't and you may become prey to charlatans and worse.

3_4_5.... what a con!

2) http://gammon.com.au/serial <-- techniques howto
3) http://gammon.com.au/interrupts
Your sketch can sense ongoing process events in time.
Your sketch can make events to control it over time.

cyberteque

#31
Dec 11, 2012, 03:59 am
has any one read "Half Past Human" or "Godwhale" by T.J. Bass?

His gY=c premise that it's the creators signature is kinda interesting.

basically a planets gravity times the year in seconds comes out to the speed of light for a habitable planet.

And on the subject of pi, have you guys seen the movie?

If you haven't you should

GoForSmoke

#32
Dec 11, 2012, 05:53 am
I liked the first Castenada set better.
2) http://gammon.com.au/serial <-- techniques howto
3) http://gammon.com.au/interrupts
Your sketch can sense ongoing process events in time.
Your sketch can make events to control it over time.

John_Smith

#33
Dec 12, 2012, 03:43 am
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There is nothing unique about base 10.  We chose it because of our fingers?  This proves that there is some connection between the base we use and the number Pi.

If only a threetoed sloth could talk and inform us what he thinks pi is ?
45 years of editing projects with a knife and soldering iron, then I found Arduino !

sbright33

#34
Dec 12, 2012, 05:50 am
It seldom stands alone.  But it stands alone more often than pi/2 or pi+constant.  So it makes more sense to define pi than 2pi.

A= Pi * r^2  That's the first one we learned with Pi in it.

RanTalbott

#35
Dec 12, 2012, 07:55 am

If only a threetoed sloth could talk and inform us what he thinks pi is ?

3.05033005141512410523441405312532110230121444200411525255331420331

However, since it's a sloth, most people would give up and walk away before it got past the second "3"...

cyberteque

#36
Dec 12, 2012, 08:02 am
for a 3 toed sloth counting in base 3
base10 -> base3
1- 1
2- 2
3- 3
4-10
5- 11
6- 12
7- 13
8- 20
9- 21
10- 22

geometrically Pi is diameter/circumference

GoForSmoke

#37
Dec 12, 2012, 08:03 am
Uhhh, Cybertech.... how do you count to 10? With 1 hand?

The usually teach circumference first.

Pi as a half-circle, once you start using graphs and trig makes a whole lot of sense.

I've read there's been recent discovery of a pile of Archimedes' writings. The man was on to the limit or working on it before the Roman soldier showed him who's boss.

There's an ancient Arabic proof of the Pythagorean Theorem from centuries before Pythagoras that I always liked because it's geometric. But my hat's off to the Indian scholars who invented zero and went on to other depths (finite series, maybe infinite series) maybe 1000 years before Newton.

I remember finding out why the volume of a sphere is 4/3 Pi R^3, why the 4/3. It doesn't "prove" anything but the volume of a sphere but it was nice to know how. Which brings me to this whole "proves" thing. Some people have awfully loose ideas about what proof is, ie: "I want" + "something convenient with no real connection" = "proof". Please.. just.. think.
2) http://gammon.com.au/serial <-- techniques howto
3) http://gammon.com.au/interrupts
Your sketch can sense ongoing process events in time.
Your sketch can make events to control it over time.

John_Smith

#38
Dec 12, 2012, 08:07 am
Right, perhaps the sloth uses base 6 then ??   and can you imagine how slow he would be using a calculator, as Ran said.
45 years of editing projects with a knife and soldering iron, then I found Arduino !

cyberteque

#39
Dec 12, 2012, 08:17 am
so the Roman's had how many fingers?

base 10 as we know it was an Arabic invention.

besides the sloth would fall out of the tree if he/she used both hands

but to cater to the pedantic

1- 1
2- 2
3- 3
4- 4
5- 5
6- 10
7- 11
8- 12
9- 13
10- 14

this assumes the sloth has learnt the value of 0, either as a quantity or a place holder

DuaneB

#40
Dec 12, 2012, 01:46 pmLast Edit: Dec 12, 2012, 02:28 pm by DuaneB Reason: 1
I can't help wondering - 'now who are the nutters ?'

Fair points though.

Duane B
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-with-arduino-part-1.html
then watch this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-part-2-demonstration.html

Rcarduino.blogspot.com

John_Smith

#41
Dec 12, 2012, 02:23 pm
I think its fairly late night bar sport !
45 years of editing projects with a knife and soldering iron, then I found Arduino !

liuzengqiang

#42
Dec 12, 2012, 04:59 pm
There may exists algebraic proof of the volume of a sphere but if you do integral calculus, the volume is fairly easily found. What was hard for me in college was finding volume of n-dimensional sphere. I never got the concept right to start with.

cyberteque

#43
Dec 12, 2012, 05:33 pm
A few years agoI went to buy some paving paint to repaint my laundry floor, I asked the smarmy hardware guy, "How many cans of this do I need for a floor 3 metres by 4 metres"

he replied

"how long is a piece of sting?"

I suggested he procreate with himself

kf2qd

#44
Dec 12, 2012, 06:44 pm
One can find many things in strange places if one really wants to find it there. The tests and the results are easily manipulated to yield the desired result. And one can waste much time chasing after foolishness thinking one is wise because he believes the lies others are telling him. And some just think that they are so superior to other humans that they don't need anyone else's input to feel superior.

He who thinks himself wise should take care lest others see him as he really is. Kind of like the "Emperors New Clothes".

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