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Nishant_Sood

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There is no such thing as deep trodden rooting, rooting is rooting or according to WIKI ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_%28Android_OS%29 ) gaining access to the kernel of the OS with administrator rights. There are no levels of rooting, Deep Trodden or otherwise mentioned.

Could you give me an example of Deep Trodden routing. I am learning this as i go along and any knowledge would be useful.


Deep trodden rooting means rooting only, its just the way to put it forward and may include bootloader unlocking because if you can understand rooting ,rooting means getting deep into the realms that are not controllable else you root the device, Hence rooting is always Deep Trodden.

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That is interesting , every android device that I have use OTG USB interfacing with does not require "rooting" Admittedly I have only tried connecting FDTI chipset based USB-> serial bridge hardware but never had to root my device to gain access to it.


"That you have used" this is something not to explain here OTG devices are OTG devices that have Host controller chipset they are found in new versions ,there are tons of Android devices without any OTG support what about those and Even in the case of some OTG  supporting devices there is still need to root the phone and get the access to the specific functionality in the Kernel, a classic example to this are 2 year old phones from now, I have 2 of these which support USB OTG only after rooting and which also emulate Serial ports only after rooting and without Serial port emulation whom you are going to talk with, phones ass maybe.

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How do the applications in the android store do this without root access.


Many of the Apps on the Android store don't work with unrooted phones and some work they work with high end devices which have OTG, you need to read the description of these apps in detail.
The fact that many USB host controller apps, stick mount apps require rooting, thats very common requirement called from such apps.
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Bainesbunch


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There is no such thing as deep trodden rooting, rooting is rooting or according to WIKI ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_%28Android_OS%29 ) gaining access to the kernel of the OS with administrator rights. There are no levels of rooting, Deep Trodden or otherwise mentioned.

Could you give me an example of Deep Trodden routing. I am learning this as i go along and any knowledge would be useful.


Deep trodden rooting means rooting only, its just the way to put it forward and may include bootloader unlocking because if you can understand rooting ,rooting means getting deep into the realms that are not controllable else you root the device, Hence rooting is always Deep Trodden.

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That is interesting , every android device that I have use OTG USB interfacing with does not require "rooting" Admittedly I have only tried connecting FDTI chipset based USB-> serial bridge hardware but never had to root my device to gain access to it.


"That you have used" this is something not to explain here OTG devices are OTG devices that have Host controller chipset they are found in new versions ,there are tons of Android devices without any OTG support what about those and Even in the case of some OTG  supporting devices there is still need to root the phone and get the access to the specific functionality in the Kernel, a classic example to this are 2 year old phones from now, I have 2 of these which support USB OTG only after rooting and which also emulate Serial ports only after rooting and without Serial port emulation whom you are going to talk with, phones ass maybe.

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How do the applications in the android store do this without root access.


Many of the Apps on the Android store don't work with unrooted phones and some work they work with high end devices which have OTG, you need to read the description of these apps in detail.
The fact that many USB host controller apps, stick mount apps require rooting, thats very common requirement called from such apps.




Ahhh OK so "Deep Trodden" is just something that you made up and does not actually exist, thanks for clearing that up.

I do believe that most new devices on the market these days do have OTG support .

perhaps you missed the post where the OP said .......

Yes i have an OTG cable and my phone support the USB Host mode.
I can connect pendrives,mouses,keyboards and controllers to it.


So I guess it does not need (Deep Trodden) rooting.

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Nishant_Sood

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Ahhh OK so "Deep Trodden" is just something that you made up and does not actually exist, thanks for clearing that up.


Its nothing I made up I have the right to put my ideas in my way, along what I said read it deeply, I also said Bootloader unlocking now that's deep trodden.

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I do believe that most new devices on the market these days do have OTG support .


I talk universal solution.

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perhaps you missed the post where the OP said .......

Yes i have an OTG cable and my phone support the USB Host mode.
I can connect pendrives,mouses,keyboards and controllers to it.


Read my statements carefully I said it "may" need rooting and again READ WHAT I POST CAREFULLY BEFORE MAKING REMARKS I told you about some old phones that I worked with already have OTG support but weren't still emulating serial ports until unless I rooted them so Hence rooting "maybe" required.

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Bainesbunch


Its nothing I made up I have the right to put my ideas in my way


Yes it is there is no such thing as "Deep Trodden" rooting. I Simply asked you to explain what that meant and you said "it just means rooting", therefor you made it up. I am not suggesting that coining expressions is a bad thing but your terms are a little confusing.


READ WHAT I POST CAREFULLY BEFORE MAKING REMARKS


Now shouting is just plain rude, but in keeping with the tone of your responses , so I am not surprised.

I suggest that you take a leaf out of your own book and read the post and its thread before posting. especial in light of the fact that you said that rooting is done to gain access to the USB port but the OP clearly states that he has this already.

You seem to be being very defensive about this, I am not sure why. All I asked for was clarity on your original post which was confusing and using self invented expressions.

Cheers Pete.
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Nishant_Sood

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Now shouting is just plain rude, but in keeping with the tone of your responses , so I am not surprised.


I EMPHAZIZED and not shouted (offcourse you'll take it as the way you are) because you were missing major chunk of what i said and just pressurizing over elements that may prove me wrong.

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Yes it is there is no such thing as "Deep Trodden" rooting. I Simply asked you to explain what that meant and you said "it just means rooting", therefor you made it up. I am not suggesting that coining expressions is a bad thing but your terms are a little confusing.


You have the tendency to talk your own stuff and recite it till the end, I told you that every rooting is Deep Trodden because you get deep into it ,its that simple but people like you looking for tracking people rather than get any original knowledge make such lacy and stretchy useless talks

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I suggest that you take a leaf out of your own book and read the post and its thread before posting. especial in light of the fact that you said that rooting is done to gain access to the USB port but the OP clearly states that he has this already.


I suggest again to understand what I write, you yourself are leaning off the topic, The OP wants to do Serial commuication and you took the OTG pathway all the way, I talked about rooting maybe needed for getting the Serial ports emulated. I told him that it maybe needed.


Try just posting stuff that helps the OP rather than making out your own understanding of what the other person means actually.
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Bainesbunch

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Jun 30, 2014, 10:45 am Last Edit: Jun 30, 2014, 10:47 am by Bainesbunch Reason: 1
I give up .. no point continuing this if all you want to do is defend a confusing statement when someone asks for clarification.

this is emphasizing

THIS IS SHOUTING

learn your net etiquette

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Nishant_Sood

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this is emphasizing

THIS IS SHOUTING

learn your net etiquette


That you think, I emphasize in CAPS , Is there any net rules at all? well No.
Don't impose your subjective thoughts as etiquettes.
First you partly understand stuff and when I try to make you understand the missing links you say its SHOUTING.

I have no interest either in continuing this at all PERIOD

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Bainesbunch


That you think, I emphasize in CAPS , Is there any net rules at all? well No.


Well actually they are not fixed rules no,  just a well established etiquette of conduct for writing in blogs  and forums.

Something you perhaps might want to consider learning.

If you want to move this debate off topic i suggest that we find somewhere else to do it because, again , it is not good etiquette to hijack a thread for a personal rant.

Cheers Pete.
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Nishant_Sood

Well actually they are not fixed rules no

That's it so its not shouting, you take it as you want.

As for continuing your so calles rant.
I ain't interested at all.
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bambuino

"deep trodden" rooting...myeah, seems kinda made up. i was just looking for info in re getting my nRF24/Nano to print to my andy tablet.

PaulMurrayCbr

You are in the fringes of an ancient wood.
There is an ent here.

Do you wish to:
1) leave entwood
2) talk to ent
3) tread deeper into the wood

http://paulmurraycbr.github.io/ArduinoTheOOWay.html

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