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nickgammon

I'm not setting your idea aside personally. I think it has merit.
Please post technical questions on the forum, not by personal message. Thanks!

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bperrybap

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Mar 03, 2015, 08:42 pm Last Edit: Mar 04, 2015, 02:19 am by bperrybap
I find myself using the Arduino forum less and less
and in fact it reduces my overall interest in Arduino in general.

I interact with close to 60 forums on many different topics and
I've not seen anything like what is happening on this forum.

It is crazy that  something as basic as "search" is missing on this forum.
(Using Google is not the same as having a forum search.)


What I'm seeing with respect to the current Arduino
forum reminds me of so much that seems to be happening all over the place
these days with respect to s/w.

Someone decides that a particular want/need/feature is important enough to change
"everything" for a new implementation.
While often that narrow want/need/feature is obtained, it comes with  a high cost.

The cost is that not only is there a large engineering effort to make the changes
(which are often larger than anticipated), but there is also
a major disruption for the existing user base.
Often many other capabilities and features are sacrificed, lost or broken,
and in many cases the final net result is a less functional less stable product
than what existed originally.

i.e. one set of problems was exchanged for another and yet
some of the original functionality was lost in the process.

I know everybody likes to watch a train wreck, but it's not so fun when you
are a passenger.

--- bill


nickgammon

You know what the weird thing is? I get the impression a lot of reworking was done to incorporate a shopping cart, so you have a seamless integration between the forum and buying stuff (although they seem like unrelated functions to me).



As far as I can see, AvrFreaks doesn't have a shopping cart.

They've gone to all this trouble to integrate a shop, and have a "seamless shopping experience", with all the hassle and confusion and then what?

They don't have stock in the shop!




Please post technical questions on the forum, not by personal message. Thanks!

More info: http://www.gammon.com.au/electronics

bperrybap

You know what the weird thing is? I get the impression a lot of reworking was done to incorporate a shopping cart, so you have a seamless integration between the forum and buying stuff (although they seem like unrelated functions to me).
I think that is very telling and points out a large part of the problem.
When the actual moderators don't know what is going on and don't have
a close enough relationship with the Arduino Team, to be part of the decision
making process, something is very very wrong.


Maybe if all the volunteer moderators got together and just stopped moderating,
it could get enough attention to be brought into the loop.

--- bill

Robin2

You know what the weird thing is? I get the impression a lot of reworking was done to incorporate a shopping cart,
That was certainly in my mind when I wondered if there could be a complete change to another Forum software - a simple (?) way to extract us from the mess.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

bperrybap

Why not just use frames? i.e. use some "normal"  working forum software for the forum
and then do any add ons by adding stuff into a area around the frame.

like a navigation bar, shopping cart, etc...

This way it is independent, can be developed and debugged independently and
if it ever breaks the forum still could be used by using a different address that
doesn't use the frame.

--- bill

Robin2

Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

nickgammon

My notifications are still some weird mix of HTLM and italics. I reported that a while ago (like the start of this year) I think.
Please post technical questions on the forum, not by personal message. Thanks!

More info: http://www.gammon.com.au/electronics

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