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artisticforge

@artisticforge

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Your online persona gives off a very similar one to another user who had almost identical views "Adafruit" Are you two linked ? eg sock puppet etc. ? (honest question BTW)

There is only one of me. I have no idea who "Adafruit" maybe on this forums. I would assume that it would be someone associated with the adafruit web site and business.

Arduino still has not hit the bottom yet. Many retail stores just no longer carry Arduino products. Radio Shack retail store are basically gone. The Mircocenter.com retail stores sell Arduino clones and knockoffs.
Frys.com retail stores are not much better. Most are either Grove or SeeedStudio. I do have one Robotale board which is a poor Chinese clone.

I have been trying for several weeks to get an answer concerning the CTC-101 kit.
Thunderous silence is the response.

Intel has all but left the Arduino community. The Arduino 101 is End-of-Life. Edison and Galileo never had much of a following.

The Arduino Yun & Tian are both tainted boards given the involvement of Doghunter and Linino.
Those two board names should be killed off as soon as possible.

Replace with the Arduino Phoenix.

The recovery of Arduino is going to take a long long time.
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Robin2

The recovery of Arduino is going to take a long long time.

Think of it as a great opportunity for you to help with the recovery.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

Thanks Robin and well said.

There is enough negative in the world without adding to it.
I seek out tiny doses of good karma in here by doing just what you suggest.


It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

artisticforge

Think of it as a great opportunity for you to help with the recovery.

...R
I wish that were possible but it is not.
Soon i will be 65 yrs old and I am dying.
definitely closer to the grave than the cradle.
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ballscrewbob

#94
Dec 02, 2017, 03:29 pm Last Edit: Dec 02, 2017, 03:30 pm by ballscrewbob
I am sure Robin would loan you the Curmudgeon title for a while...
After all he has shown a marked sense of humour recently so I don't think he would miss it  :)


It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

Robin2

@artisticforge, I am already 65 years old and, like everyone else on the planet, I am dying one day at a time.

If you are in the unfortunate situation of dying more quickly that the rest of us at least you can be thankful that you will not be around to hear us say "I told you so" when we discover that the Arduino system is not as dead as you forecast.

On the other hand (to end on an upbeat note) it would only take you a few days to write a short tutorial about something that might be helpful for a newbie, and hopefully your life expectancy will extend that far.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

Ha..I am younger than you R2..OK not in the grand scheme of things (5 years) but enough to call you old.
It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

artisticforge

@artisticforge, I am already 65 years old and, like everyone else on the planet, I am dying one day at a time.

If you are in the unfortunate situation of dying more quickly that the rest of us at least you can be thankful that you will not be around to hear us say "I told you so" when we discover that the Arduino system is not as dead as you forecast.

On the other hand (to end on an upbeat note) it would only take you a few days to write a short tutorial about something that might be helpful for a newbie, and hopefully your life expectancy will extend that far.

...R
It is sad that you find another person dying so amusing and something to joke about.
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Robin2

It is sad that you find another person dying so amusing and something to joke about.
It is your choice between feeling sorry for yourself or deciding to enjoy life.


I certainly won't be in the least bit bothered if I die. I came to terms with that very many years ago.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

SurfingDude

Arduino still has not hit the bottom yet. Many retail stores just no longer carry Arduino products. Radio Shack retail store are basically gone. The Mircocenter.com retail stores sell Arduino clones and knockoffs.
Frys.com retail stores are not much better. Most are either Grove or SeeedStudio. I do have one Robotale board which is a poor Chinese clone.

I have to totally disagree with you. Arduino.cc went through some growing pains a few years back but the community - represented by this forum - is strong. Yes, brick & mortar retail stores like Radio Shack, Fry's, and Sears are a dying breed, replaced by e-commerce sites and internet stores. That, my friend, is what progress must be.

Annual product models come and go, just like lady's fashions, but the interest in them thrives and the newer models such as the MKR1000 offer much more than the originals.

There's a great and marvelous future.

dmjlambert

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Jun 09, 2019, 04:27 am Last Edit: Jun 09, 2019, 04:29 am by dmjlambert
It's a big if. 
If Arduino was interested in selling stuff, they would have employees here in the forum fixing problems and generally pitching in, as the Adafruit employees do on the Adafruit website forums.   And they would be responsive to emails sent to the store.   Perhaps there is just a general lack of interest on their part.   It would be nice if that would change, because I think there is potential.   It would be nice if Arduino made the Circuit Playground, that sure would be a nice official Arduino board, they could probably sell gobs of those.  

ballscrewbob

@dmjlambert

Have you not noticed the slow influx of ardi employees in some sections of the forums ?
member status actually reflects they are employees.

Also the amount of posts about store problems has also dropped considerably.
And YES I know why that is.

Did you not notice the new CLOUD system ?
That takes a considerable amount of work to make and test.

Then there are the extended EDU programs going off that most of us never even hear about.

I think they are far from disinterested just as stretched as ever with each new thing.

Oh and there are the new boards that recently came out that need attention too.
BTW they do get it from those who work for ARDI but I could be extra sarcastic and say that doesnt count.

From my POV they have a lot of work on thier plates and deal with it as best they can.
Sure they dont always get it right but even adacostfruit are not exactly saints either.



It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

dmjlambert

Yes I see the online version of the IDE.   I can imagine that would take a lot of work to get going.   I edit and study the core files and do a lot of stuff from the command line, so I have not been very interested in the cloud yet.   And yes there are some new products.   No I have not noticed Arduino employees in sections of the forum.  Perhaps they are in sections I don't frequent.   I guess I would expect to see them in the installation and troubleshooting section, suggestions for the Arduino project section, general section.  Maybe I'm just not noticing.   I will write another email to the store and see if they are responsive.     

Robin2

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Jun 09, 2019, 01:30 pm Last Edit: Jun 09, 2019, 01:31 pm by Robin2
If Arduino was interested in selling stuff, they would have employees here in the forum fixing problems and generally pitching in,
I have mentioned this many times in the past without the slightest effect even though I know some the Arduino folks read my comments.

Customer service for existing products should have a higher priority than the creation of new products.  It's not as if Arduino makes any money from its software products.

I can't imagine how a web-based programming system adds any significant value compared to the well established desktop system. You still need a local system to upload code to an Arduino. IMHO this is just people chasing fashion for its own sake.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

I would disagree mostly Robin.

Just my POV of course but the online EDU side of things looks to have taken a very large leap and of course it is a PAY system too so YES they make money from software on that side of things.

Semi agree on the CS side but only to a small degree as the newer boards are getting employee support in thier respective sections.

Bob.
It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

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