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I have this basic understanding why Arduino exists - to show kindergarten "aged"  aspiring computer geeks how to blink LED without ever opening any book or RTFM on anything related to such task. Fine.

It's a free world , but with notable exceptions of few forum participants bent on posting nagging comments on "newbie " FIRST post. 
I have been told that I should quit posting if I cannot post "properly" formatted posts - especially without  using code tags.
I see the issue another way , of course, - I am NOT using IDE  - I am a "guess" on PC and have no desire or means to install Arduino IDE.

But the real issue - I have explained my limited access as "guest" - both directly and indirectly and came to conclusion that some folks just do not know how to read.
Of course I cannot tell them that...
 
Would this group/ forum like to share their "favorite" stupid , space and time occupying posts?

Mine is - why are you using italic? Post of great value / contribution to technical discussion, right?
Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does the work.

Robin2

Mine is - why are you using italic? Post of great value / contribution to technical discussion, right?
And mine is ...

Don't you proof read your Posts after posting them and correct them when, for example, the code appears as italics?


Refusing to use the normal tools that are available on the Forum to make it easy for people to help you is just being a PITA on purpose.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

Henry_Best

And mine is ...

Don't you proof read your Posts after posting them and correct them when, for example, the code appears as italics?
Obviously not.
That is one of the reasons why we insist on code tags. They avoid that problem.
There's no need to be using the IDE to insert code tags. The "</>" icon is top left in the posting window.

Delta_G

So which is better then?  Should I do like I do now and tell the poster to fix the code so it is readable and not in italics, so I can see where he's used an array index right or wrong. 

Or should I just not say anything because some other jerk doesn't get how it is helpful.  I'll say nothing and since nobody can see the real problem nobody answers and the poor poster is left to just wonder why nobody helps them. 

Now which is actually more helpful to the poster?  I'm sorry if it makes them feel dumb.  Maybe they should feel dumb for not paying attention.  I don't concern myself too much with their feelings.  I just try to help with their code.  If their feelings get hurt I link them to Dr. Phil.  He is a lot better with feeling than I am.  Though I'm sure I'm better at code. 
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Please do not PM with technical questions or comments.  Keep Arduino stuff out on the boards where it belongs.

Henry_Best

So which is better then?  Should I do like I do now and tell the poster to fix the code so it is readable and not in italics, so I can see where he's used an array index right or wrong.  

Or should I just not say anything because some other jerk doesn't get how it is helpful.  I'll say nothing and since nobody can see the real problem nobody answers and the poor poster is left to just wonder why nobody helps them.  

Now which is actually more helpful to the poster?  I'm sorry if it makes them feel dumb.  Maybe they should feel dumb for not paying attention.  I don't concern myself too much with their feelings.  I just try to help with their code.  If their feelings get hurt I link them to Dr. Phil.  He is a lot better with feeling than I am.  Though I'm sure I'm better at code.  
In this case, I believe that the OP newbie is the 'some other jerk'.

Paul_KD7HB

And he posted the same rant on other parts of the forum.

Paul

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Obviously not.
That is one of the reasons why we insist on code tags. They avoid that problem.
There's no need to be using the IDE to insert code tags. The "</>" icon is top left in the posting window.
Good point - unless I use use Quick reply.

After this flaming I'll  probably exit - using "War games" solution.
 
Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does the work.

MAS3

If you want to learn to code (which is what this is really about), then it'll be easy for you to do that manually without the need of the extended edit screen (or whatever it may be called).
You just use the code tags like this:
[code] [/code]
Put your code in between of those two tags, and you're done.

Speaking of learning to read:
This has been mentioned in about every second thread over here (a wee bit exaggerated).
Have a look at "blink without delay".
Did you connect the grounds ?
Je kunt hier ook in het Nederlands terecht: http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/board,77.0.html

CtrlAltElite

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Feb 21, 2018, 11:24 pm Last Edit: Feb 22, 2018, 12:26 am by CtrlAltElite
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Would this group/ forum like to share their "favorite" stupid , space and time occupying posts?
Here's a candidate

(I  can't believe they wasted five minutes posting that, and it doesn't even count towards their post count, so they remain a noob even longer)
Has there been an outbreak of the stupid virus, and I didn't get the memo?

Qdeathstar

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Would this group/ forum like to share their "favorite" stupid , space and time occupying posts?
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I have this basic understanding why Arduino exists - to show kindergarten "aged"  aspiring computer geeks how to blink LED without ever opening any book or RTFM on anything related to such task. Fine.

It's a free world , but with notable exceptions of few forum participants bent on posting nagging comments on "newbie " FIRST post. 
I have been told that I should quit posting if I cannot post "properly" formatted posts - especially without  using code tags.
I see the issue another way , of course, - I am NOT using IDE  - I am a "guess" on PC and have no desire or means to install Arduino IDE.

But the real issue - I have explained my limited access as "guest" - both directly and indirectly and came to conclusion that some folks just do not know how to read.
Of course I cannot tell them that...
 
Would this group/ forum like to share their "favorite" stupid , space and time occupying posts?

Mine is - why are you using italic? Post of great value / contribution to technical discussion, right?
A creaking creeping shadow
stiff against the freezing fog
glares at a tickless watch.

Time has failed him -- all things shall pass.

Coding Badly

I have this basic understanding why Arduino exists - to show kindergarten "aged"  aspiring computer geeks...
Nope.  Your basic understanding is wrong.


Robin2

This Thread brings to mind a distant memory of some TV program with an audience and some fool in the audience tried to heckle the panel.

But the guys on the panel were stand-up comedians. Guess how it went :)

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ardly

I have this basic understanding why Arduino exists - to show kindergarten "aged"  aspiring computer geeks how to ...
"Aged" probably, "Kindergarten" probably not
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

Coding Badly

"Aged" probably, "Kindergarten" probably not
Maturity level / chronological age has never been part of the mandate.


Robin2

My birth certificate will show that I am nearly 66 but in reality I am only about 26 - and getting younger every day.  :)

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

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