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lwielkiewicz

I'm not having any issues, but I was wondering if it is known why so many clones put the old bootloader on the nano?

pert

It was understandable back in 2018 when Arduino had just changed the bootloader on the official Nanos. 2.5 years later, not so much.

I'm sure the clone sellers get tons of support requests, returns, and bad feedback from people who don't realize they need to select Tools > Processor > ATmega328P (Old bootloader). Even if they don't care at all about their customers, you'd think they would make the change simply for economic reasons.

The only valid reason I can think of for continuing to use the old bootloader is if they are selling from a big stockpile that were made before or soon after Arduino made the change. That could certainly be the case.

ballscrewbob

I am with Per on this and it is not just bootloaders.

GRBL is another case in point with the Chinese often supplying lower versions even though 1.1 has been around for quite some time.

They are not best known for updated software or decent documentation.


It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google (who would have thunk it ! ) or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

Robin2

GRBL is another case in point with the Chinese often supplying lower versions even though 1.1 has been around for quite some time.
Considering that people expect to get products from China at a tiny fraction of the price they would have to pay for the same products made entirely in Europe or the USA it is hardly surprising if the Chinese don't waste their time with software upgrades.

The USA and Europe buying cheap products from China is the modern version of slavery which has been so much in the news recently. Back in the day the slaves were brought to the work. Now the egregiously rich bosses have discovered that it is cheaper to send the work to the slaves.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

The USA and Europe buying cheap products from China is the modern version of slavery which has been so much in the news recently. Back in the day the slaves were brought to the work. Now the egregiously rich bosses have discovered that it is cheaper to send the work to the slaves.

...R
Made in england, usa, canada, etc labels are a total waste of time as most of the power tools in particular are made and badged in China. Quite often it is just a matter of adding a part to the box to say it was made in xxx country. The same practice goes for automotive manufacture with a good chunk of parts coming from abroad and just being dropped into a shell made in XXX country. Engines and major electronic components being a good part of that.

It is no wonder that when there is a problem in China that you cannot get things supposedly made in XXX country.

It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google (who would have thunk it ! ) or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

Robin2

Made in england, usa, canada, etc labels
If you read carefully you will see that I specifically said "products made entirely in Europe or the USA"  :)

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

If you read carefully you will see that I specifically said "products made entirely in Europe or the USA"  :)

...R
How much of even that can you honestly trust these days ?
It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google (who would have thunk it ! ) or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

Robin2

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Jul 03, 2020, 08:48 pm Last Edit: Jul 03, 2020, 08:50 pm by Robin2
How much of even that can you honestly trust these days ?
I share your scepticism.

I was referring to a theoretical ideal - how much would a product cost if it really was 100% made in USA or Europe with no cheating.

...R
Two or three hours spent thinking and reading documentation solves most programming problems.

ballscrewbob

I share your scepticism.

I was referring to a theoretical ideal - how much would a product cost if it really was 100% made in USA or Europe with no cheating.

...R
Going on the profit margins it COULD cost the same if many of the manufacturers were not as greedy.

It may not be the answer you were looking for but its the one I am giving based on either experience, educated guess, google (who would have thunk it ! ) or the fact that you gave nothing to go with in the first place so I used my wonky crystal ball.

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