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Mytx

Sep 05, 2011, 11:51 pm Last Edit: Sep 07, 2011, 04:07 pm by Mytx Reason: 1
Hi there!
I'm an visual artist and musician, and a Midi controllers designer as well.
I've been using object-oriented programming softwares such as Pure Data, Max/MSP, Isadora and Quartz Composer.
I find object oriented programming very intuitive and powerfull, and I think Arduino programming community could grow a lot with this option, because there are many people that are not that interested into code programming or just don't have the time for it.

I think It would be interesting to discuss this topic and to know programmers and non-programmers opinions.
www.yaeltex.com.ar
MYTX.-

retrolefty


Hi there!
I'm an visual artist and musician, and a Midi controllers designer as well.
I've been using object-oriented programming softwares such as Pure Data, Max/MSP, Isadora and Quartz Composer.
I find object oriented programming very intuitive and powerfull, and I think Arduino programming community could grow a lot with this option, because there are many people that are not that interested into code programming or just don't have the time for it.

I think It would be interesting to discuss this topic and to know programmers and non-programmers opinions.



Well it's my understanding that the C++ language used to program an arduino is already an object oriented programming language? Or perhaps "object oriented programming" means something else to you?

Lefty

fat16lib

These are high level graphical programming systems.

These are not likely to be useful for the Arduino with its limited resources. 

Perhaps such a system could be used for simple apps on the Arduino.

robtillaart


check - http://www.modk.it/ -

graphical programming for Arduino, no idea how well it performs but as it is Italian design it looks good ;)

But graphical programming can be OO but not necessary needs to be OO... It can be sequential too, or ....
Rob Tillaart

Nederlandse sectie - http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/board,77.0.html -
(Please do not PM for private consultancy)

fat16lib

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Sep 06, 2011, 08:46 pm Last Edit: Sep 06, 2011, 08:48 pm by fat16lib Reason: 1
Modkit is cute but very limited.

I tried if for a few minutes and then it wanted me to sign up for six months at $30, year at $50, or $199 for lifetime.

Mytx

Well, I wasn't thinking on replacing the actual programming structure and language, what I ment is that a graphical object oriented programming could be a cool feature for people that needs to do simple stuff and don't want to get that far intro code programming. Of course I can realise about limits of this structure, but this could be really helpfull fore some people that needs to do simple projects, within those limits.
www.yaeltex.com.ar
MYTX.-

Mytx



Hi there!
I'm an visual artist and musician, and a Midi controllers designer as well.
I've been using object-oriented programming softwares such as Pure Data, Max/MSP, Isadora and Quartz Composer.
I find object oriented programming very intuitive and powerfull, and I think Arduino programming community could grow a lot with this option, because there are many people that are not that interested into code programming or just don't have the time for it.

I think It would be interesting to discuss this topic and to know programmers and non-programmers opinions.



Well it's my understanding that the C++ language used to program an arduino is already an object oriented programming language? Or perhaps "object oriented programming" means something else to you?

Lefty



Lefty, sorry, my mistake, I ment graphical object oriented programming.
www.yaeltex.com.ar
MYTX.-

robtillaart

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Modkit is cute but very limited.

I tried if for a few minutes and then it wanted me to sign up for six months at $30, year at $50, or $199 for lifetime.

Didn't know that, And what do you get for that money? support? new versions? Think (s)he better asks for free donations....
Rob Tillaart

Nederlandse sectie - http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/board,77.0.html -
(Please do not PM for private consultancy)

jhgorse

Try LabVIEW

https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/labview-interface-for-arduino

Cheers,
Joe

keeper63


Try LabVIEW

https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/labview-interface-for-arduino

Cheers,
Joe


Heh - to get it for Linux, you have to buy the "Full" version; with a 1 year support agreement - $2600.00 USD

Such a bargain.
I will not respond to Arduino help PM's from random forum users; if you have such a question, start a new topic thread.

Mytx

At least there are some options coming out. Maybe this means that an free-software option could be close to appear. I think I will learn C++ programming and join this cause.
www.yaeltex.com.ar
MYTX.-

retrolefty

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I think I will learn C++ programming and join this cause.


And that of course is the best solution.  ;)

It may take a little longer but the rewards will be much larger.

Lefty

bubulindo


Well, I wasn't thinking on replacing the actual programming structure and language, what I ment is that a graphical object oriented programming could be a cool feature for people that needs to do simple stuff and don't want to get that far intro code programming.


It's not really replacing... it's adding another layer on top of it. And as with all other layers that Arduino has, comes an overhead and implementation details that get hidden from the user (which is what you want), but it will remove functionality because the graphical blocks will do what the designer wanted, and if it's not exactly what you want, you're stuck again.

Plus, for simple stuff you can go through the examples and copy/paste together a solution for your problem. It's not hard, it just looks hard. Try using a flow-chart to design what you need, and then transpose that to paper using the basic operators like if(), while(), for(;;), etc... in no time you'll see how you don't need the graphical user interface.

If that is a necessity, you can always go with Functional Block Description (I see this in Siemens PLCs), but I don't think you'll like the cost...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_block_diagram
This... is a hobby.

Mytx

I know I could learn it easily, but I was not thinking in my personal situation only, I think it could be usefull for a lot of  users. If we are talking about free and open software, you could always modify or ask someone to modify an object or an actor that you want change because it doesn't fit your needs.
I also think that a graphical user interface makes programming faster.

Hey, but what about code and graphical user interface both in the same arduino software? I still find as a big big feature
www.yaeltex.com.ar
MYTX.-

jhgorse



Try LabVIEW

https://decibel.ni.com/content/groups/labview-interface-for-arduino

Cheers,
Joe


Heh - to get it for Linux, you have to buy the "Full" version; with a 1 year support agreement - $2600.00 USD

Such a bargain.


I was going to say, "Want some cheese with that Wine?" but it seems LabVIEW does not work well with Wine, try Virtual Box or VMWare. For $50 I think it is worth it, especially if one would like to code in a rich graphical language instead of text as the OP asked.

Cheers,
Joe

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