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smeezekitty

But even with no DNS, it would still be accessible by IP address.
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retrolefty

Ok, I guess I will give up my unread posts button for the cause. However I do wish I could both demand my rights as well as demand my unread posts button at the same time. Why must I choose, are they somehow related?

Having hung around this forum for around three years now, one aspect I really enjoyed about my time here was how little political issues was posted and discussed here. I recently started participating in a Ham Radio forum and it seems that nearly half the post are dealing with political issues with all the partisan back and forth BS that usually ends up with. Hoping this is a one time or very seldom issue that the arduino web master(s) feels needing member participation in.

Lefty

Coding Badly

Normally Safari 5.0.5, but I tried these


How very odd.  The black band just arrived.

Coding Badly

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Jan 19, 2012, 04:58 am Last Edit: Jan 19, 2012, 05:00 am by Coding Badly Reason: 1
Why must I choose, are they somehow related?


That thing is obnoxious.  While we wait for it to go away...
http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=unreadreplies
http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=unread

frank26080115

just a tip, I use Chrome, so I can right click on the banner, click "inspect element", and delete the piece of HTML that's responsible.

this works for other websites that show overlaid pop-ups as well,

mromani


Still can't see the relevance outside the US so why are we involved?


One simple example ... Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. operates several root DNS servers around the world including in the U.S.  Which means they (like many root server operators) fall under the jurisdiction of U.S. law.  SOPA / PIPA would give the executive branch of the U.S. government the ability to shutdown any "foreign" website at the root DNS level.  In other words, the U.S. Attorney General could potentially cut off a U.K. website by compelling Internet Systems Consortium to remove or poison DNS records.

The law has no provisions for remediation.  Once a site is removed, even if the removal was a mistake, the only recourse is to hope the Attorney General sees reason or to sue the U.S. government.



Scary stuff...  :eek:

nickgammon


Still can't see the relevance outside the US ...


First, I didn't even notice the SOPA stuff until I browsed this part of the forum.

Second, ah, laws passed in the USA are very likely to impact the rest of the world. Just as an example, I read recently that here in Australia we can't change our laws regarding (illegal) drug use, even if we wanted to, because of international agreements.

Seriously, if the USA passes laws restricting Internet access, the very next thing that will happen is that "friendly" countries will be encouraged to mirror them.
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Jantje

Nick
It is even worse. The US requests the UK to deliver a UK resident who acted completely legal according to the UK laws. He had a web server based in the Netherlands (Europe). The request is based on the fact that the UK resident did things that are illegal in the US. As his domain name ends on .com and as such he used US services US claims you need to comply with American laws. :smiley-eek:
If the US start to use the sopa law for anything which is posted on a .com worldwide we will have to learn the US law by hart. And then the chinese law and then .....
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Jantje

ps I also heard that in this case you do not want to defend the UK resident
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nickgammon

If you are referring to Julian Assange, then my government appears to not trying too hard to defend him.

In fact this strengthens my argument that what the USA government does, or wants to do, tends to affect the rest of the world, like it or not.
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Jantje

Nick
Julian wikileaks servers are not in Nederlands. This is a completely different story which proves USA are already strong enough without SOPA.
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Jantje
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