better delete all and everything since page 5 ff.
Nothing which had been written since here did us bring even 1 mm closer to a solution.
I'm out, I don't feel like arguing with a troll since the offending and insulting posts have been restored (thanks for the moderation, BTW).
Finally one is well adviced not to feed either one.
Sorry to say, you will not be missed Arthur.
Keep your opinions to yourself or contribute something meaningful and/or useful.
Regards,
Graham
When you think everyone else is looking like a troll, that's the time to take a peek in the mirror.
@AWOL
Are Paul Stoffregen and I really to blame for this situation?
G
Yes. Absolutely.
Sorry?? Seriously??
Perhaps you will offer to fulfil all of Arthur's requests yourself? Free, and without gratitude?
No, I'm joking.
ArthurD has done little but bitch and moan, (about the forum, about code box sizes, how the moderators did or didn't do their jobs...) seemingly never noticing that the whines were directed to the wrong people.
Something . . . snapped.
Understood..
G
I just saw the due listed under retired on this site. So does this mean no longer will be built?
I guess the zero took its place.
Zero and MKR1000 have same CPU and are only half performant than Arduino Due:
http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=397480.msg2784825#msg2784825
Unfortunately you will have to forget arduino.cc to get new DUEs.
But that does not mean you cannot get them, there are tons of suppliers of 12$ DUEs with free shipping (I have 4 of them, no problems):
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160717030022&SearchText=Arduino+Due+r3
Performance wise and pin count wise there is no alternative for the Due currently from arduino.cc, but there are some cheap "coprocessor" options:
http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=412642.0
Hermann.
Indeed I did escalate my tone here, perhaps disrespectfully. There's a fine line between calling out what someone's saying versus calling out the person themselves, and perhaps I stepped over that line? Sorry.
I do have a great amount of respect for people who actually contribute to open source projects, and not much patience for those whose only contribution is a lot of talk insisting others contribute.
Paul, I had harsh words with you on a different thread recently, for that I apologise again, I have great respect for you and what you have done for the community with your contributions, but in this case, personally, I don't think you were out of order. ArthurD has repeatedly said "can't won't" which has annoyed me previously and I got a formal warning for my previous dealings with him, I actually think you were fairly tolerant and diplomatic but he kept pushing......
G
Well, those SPI sharing issues are frustrating (that other thread). Believe me, I know...
Well, interesting Topic, long some heavy words some smooth ones. Is the Due Obsolete? Man (mean all of you there) looks like it's more an religious question. I like this piece of hardware, I wrote my first Library for the Due and still maintain as good as I can. So yes I have an relationship with the Due, but I'm not married to it. The Due is a fine Board for some tasks and for some other tasks there are several other good Boards.
Btw. I'm an polygamist I use all hardware I can find. If it looks nice I have my hands on it.
It seems obvious to me that until .cc can come up with a serious competitor the DUE will live on in the clones... I don't wish to support .org to be honest but I very much like the sound of the Star OTTO.
G
But what does "live on" mean? Would you say this for Maple? It's probably the best example of a board that stopped software development & maintenance, but Chinese clones continued to sell and remain widely available. Unless someone steps up to take continue the software side (with little or no economic incentive), as ArthurD hoped, Due's future will probably look similar to Maple.
Further above in this thread
http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=397480.msg2784825#msg2784825
I did comparison of the different >16MHz Arduino models and ESP8266-12E.
Recently I did play a lot with 1GHz 5$(+5& shipping) Raspberry Pi Zero and just wanted to add it (40/26 GPIO pins) to the evaluation table:
| model | -Os | -O3 | speed | processor | Wifi | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 101 | 846 | 791 | 32MHz | Intel® Curie | - | |||||
| Due | 548 | 494 | 84MHz | ATSAM3X8E | - | |||||
| MKR1000 | 1038 | 825 | 48MHz | SAMD21 Cortex-M0+ | yes | |||||
| Zero | - | - | 48MHz | ATSAMD21G18 | - | |||||
| ESP8266-12E | 612 | 304 | 80MHz | Tensilica Xtensa LX106 | yes | |||||
| Raspberry Pi Zero | - | 60 | 1GHz | Broadcom BCM2835 | - |
Given that even Arduino IDE programming can be done for the Raspberry Pi Zero (I did not test that yet) this might be a high performace alternative to the Arduino Due (like the Due the Pi Zero GPIO pins are 3.3V):
Hermann.
P.S:
I have to correct the Raspberry Pi Zero number from 85us to 60us, just run as root:
pi@raspberrypi01:~ $ sudo ./q
47| 29|101|
113| 59| 5|
17| 89| 71|
60us
pi@raspberrypi01:~ $
star OTTO thumbs up 180MHz
Pi Zero CPU clock is 1GHZ, 5.5 times that of star OTTO.
If you have a star OTTO, can you please provide the runtime for q.c?
https://stamm-wilbrandt.de/en/twitter/q.c
Hermann.
The Arduino.org folks posted a video of a couple Star Otto display demos. Looks pretty impressive...