Thanks, I did not know that the Loop Test was not for the USBASP devices.
The fact that it did work on the FTDI Programmer made me think that I should have been able to program with it??
I had come to the conclusion that the USBASP did not create a COM port.
I don't remember where I read it but some document directed me to using the libusbK USB drivers.
Maybe I should uninstall those drivers and try the Windows 10 default drivers??
My understanding is that the FTDI Programmer does not need a bootloader.
Does the USBASP always need a bootloader?
Should I upload the bootloader every time before I try to upload with the USBASP?
I am using the "Programmer: USBASP" for my USBASP devices. Is that the right "Programmer"?
Is there any documentation that covers these different types of communication between the Arduino IDE and the board?