http://yourduino.com/sunshop2/index.php?l=product_detail&p=195
this is the shield i have
wanderson :- thank you for the link to the guide which I will digest over the next few days as I try to understand
Ray :- above link to shield - copied from the tutorial from wanderson 
thanks for the input re pin 9 example and where to start looking
any body else with comments please feel free
I'm sure I will return with any questions in the near future
Again thank you for sharing your time and knowledge on this subject
David