Blinking eyes fox deterrent

Hi!

This is not an arduino question. It is about an addition to my highly arduino-controlled hen house, but it is an attempt to do things analog.

So, side question: where is the best place to go other than this forum for the kinds of electronics project advice below?

On the the main quesiton. The problem: A fox recently killed 16 chickens. First attack in 8 years. There are a lot of foxes around, so hopefully the long interval before any troubles suggests our other anti-fox measures are not too bad. But before we re-stock, I'd like to do a few upgrades.

I had thought it was a gimmick, but I now have it on good authority that devices that light up two red LEDs like evil predator eyes, such as

are actually effective.

I'd much rather do this myself! Also, I feel that if they blink once a minute or so, it might make them a bit harder for a fox to habituate to. I've set myself a challenge to make these myself with the most basic components I can. I already have 5V in the chicken house because there is a fair bit of automation going on already.

Here is a schematic of my prototype (only development so far is building it on a breadboard this afternoon). The basic idea is to use a phototransistor to make a light-dependent switch. When the system comes on (low light), a highly asymmetric astable multivibrator circuit controls the LEDs such that they are on for about 50s between 1s blinks.

I would welcome any feedback. My analog skills are weak! Basically I used 2n2222 for everything because I have a bag of them. I wouldn't know better if there were obvious better choices for any specific parts of the circuit. Also, I'm having to do a darlington pair system to amplify the output of my the light sensing circuit, at least when its sensitivity is tuned to dusk/dawn. Could someone suggest a better way (maybe someone has used a different phototransistor that is better for this kind of situation)?

Thanks in advance!

Michael

There is a General Electronics forum on this WEB site.


I recommend using a CMOS 555 timer circuit.


Actually, cannot urge you enough to use an Arduino for this.

An Arduino Pro Mini is only $4.00.

If you do, there are a whole myriad of sensors available to you.

You could use an ultrasonic sensor to detect objects 4 or even 7 meters away.

There are body heat sensors too.

If foxy comes close, car horn goes off. :scream:

You can still have the two LEDs flashing (or more); the photo transistor can be monitored, then used to start flashing, even at random rates.

However I think a photo resistor might be better.

You can also interface to an RTC.

I agree with the Arduino suggestion. You could then also add fading effects for greater realism.
If you continue with the existing circuit, I think you have to invert the electrolytic capacitor.

Hi LarryD and 6v6gt,

Totally get you. The hen door, various monitoring and reporting by packet radio, etc are already all a low power ATmega328p-based scheme. I may end up going that way for the this part of the system too (pulsating glowing eyes!). But part of my goal here is also to try to get a bit more competent on the analog side of things!

Michael

Use a 555 Timer then.

Then build it, and play around with it. What is blocking you?

I'm sort of looking for a question here...

If you want to build it only that way then asking for other ideas doesn't make sense.

Hi Larry - indeed I started with that, then challenged myself to go to even more basic components. What would you see as the benefit? I didn't get to testing the contribution of the current consumed by the 555 to the circuit as a whole. The multivibrator part as currently set up seems to contribute a consumption of about <1mA, so I'm not sure if it would pay off current-wise to go back to a 555.

I occasionally get my circuit failing to start up when I cut the light. I can't quite decide if it is the general unreliableness of the breadboard, or if there could be something unreliable about the design.

Michael

Indeed! Yes, you are right it is supposed to be the other way. I'm a bit confused at why it seems to work either way around! Trying to puzzle through the logic of why it would work either way around in my case, but can't piece it together.

You could if you ran it in a simulator. :slight_smile:

The CMOS LMC555 timer does have low power consumption.

The 555 output current drive can be up to 100mA (very bright ! ).

These Timers are stable.

A HIGH side switch, connected to a photo transistor, on the LEDs can control the current like an AND gate, therefore the 555 astable would always run.

Actually, if you have wallwart power, forget about the photo transistor.

BTW, two Timers can be used together for more complex options.

Some combinations of these are pretty convining! If I can get back to this next weekend, I'll re-build a 555-based version.

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