Bootloader burning error w/ ArduinoISP and 328

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I am trying to burn the bootloader onto a 328 I just got.I upload ArduinoISP to my arduino, then hooked up the blank chip. I put a 120? resistor b/w RST and 5V to disable reset, then tried to burn the bootloader. I got this error:

avrdude: Yikes!  Invalid device signature.
         Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
         this check.

I have never seen this error before...

If I try to upload a program, I get

avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x1c

I have gotten ArduinoISP to work before; I have used it to program an ATtiny2313 which worked.

Thanks!

baum

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Is the chip a 328 or a 328p ? There was a recent posting around here showing the hoops you have to jump through if trying to burn to a 328 non p chip.

Lefty

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It's a 328P-PU. :frowning:
I just remembered that I had success with the same chip a while back loading the blink example, but now it is not working at all.
P.S. Do I need to have the 16Mhz crystal connected while burning the bloader?

baum

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Yes. A crystal or resonator must be in place when burning a bootloader using the IDE.

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O! I will try that later.

Thanks a lot!

baum

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RE: "It's a 328P-PU"

The 328pu DOES have a different device signature than the 328p as retrolefty said, see:

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RE:

"Yes. A crystal or resonator must be in place when burning a bootloader using the IDE."

erm, see "Eliminating the External Clock" at http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard

Haven't tried it though....

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I don't mean to threadjack but I have a very similar problem. I'm using a 328p-pu, just like the OP. That is the same chip as the arduino, the "other" chip that requires the hack is the 328-pu. I just tried Arduino Forum and it didn't work. The first p being pico power and the -pu being the specific package (through-hole configuration), from what I understand.

I'm using a duemilenove to do the programming, and I'm using http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard
without the minimal circuit (without the crystal to burn it). I managed to burn it on once, the chip was able to run blink. I then tried to upload the lillypad bootloader to be able to run at 3.3V and now I'm stuck with

avrdude: Yikes!  Invalid device signature.
         Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
         this check.

I then installed AVRdude and tried programming from the command line, this is what I'm getting:

louis-leblancs-macbook:~ louisleblanc$ avrdude -p m328p -P /dev/cu.usbserial-A6008iE2 -c avrisp -b 19200

avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.12s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000
avrdude: Expected signature for ATMEGA328P is 1E 95 0F
         Double check chip, or use -F to override this check.

avrdude done.  Thank you.

I then tried forcing it to burn a bootloader with -F and it was saying that the fuses couldn't be read.

Are my chips dead? If so, is it likely that burning the bootloader without a crystal caused that?

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Try adding the crystal + capacitors. Alternatively you can also feed a square wave (MHz range) into the XTAL1 pin. Another arduino can easily create it.

If you've used the arduino IDE to flash a bootloader and the board you had selected at that time was one with a crystal, your new chip will want one as well. Without it, it will appear dead.

The very first programming was successful, as chips from factory run with their internal clock.

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Done burning bootloader.

You sir (or lady), are a hero.

I actually tried programming my uno to shoot out a >1MHz wave and even with some code I found on the forum that speak directly to the arduino in assembly. That didn't pan out so I then tried the "arduinoception" method http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoISP. (I had tried it before but I think my uno was the master and I couldn't get it to disable auto-reset).