Bootloader Programmer?

Will this one work? Is it a good choice? Help would be great:

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3808

http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ATAVRISP2virtualkey55650000virtualkey556-ATAVRISP2

Yes it’s a good one. If you click on the tools/burn bootloader button on the Arduino IDE you will see presently 5 (in version 18) programmers listed. The one you listed is considered a good mainstream programmer. There are asian clones of the same design on E-bay for less money if you trust their quality and support.

The one I use, USBtinyISP programmer kit is less money and also works well with the Arduino IDE, but you do have to assemble it: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=46

Lefty

Thanks retro

Here is the programmer I’ve been using with Studio4 - works good and takes 30 minutes to assemble - and for $11 shipped, about the best price around.

http://www.fun4diy.com/AVRISP_mkII.htm

Any chance that one right above my post works with the Arduino IDE? If not, any instructions on how to use it with Studio4?

@Jezuz, yes, it works and it works very well for me. I dumped all the bootloader stuff for this device. Especially because it can flash much faster once you tune it. See here: http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1254340446/all.

Cheers, Udo

TchncIFI - are you referring to this one?
http://www.fun4diy.com/AVRISP_mkII.htm
For it, I’m not sure. Udo’s thread gives LOTS of info on linux, but I’m not sure how that applies to windoz.

My experience is I think it might work if setup properly. By trying the “burn bootloader” the error is usb not found, I go in and change usb to USB in the Programmers.txt file, then the error is longer and avrdude doesn’t find COM1 and other verbiage.

I also changed the perferences.txt “upload using” from bootloader to the clone and got much the same error as the “burn bootloader” attempt. Since it’s not much trouble to have both Studio4 open with Arduino IDE, I do the compile in Arduino IDE, then burn via the ISP pins with Studio4. Actually still faster than with Arduino IDE.

I am usually programming a m168 chip on a PCB with other stuff, not on the actual Arduino itself. Sometimes I do breadboard up a circuit and use the Arduino, then I use the standard IDE functions.

I hope this helps some.

Ken H>

Well I never bought a programmer… just found this one about a year back… have burned all kinds of chips… Works very well for just a very small modification to the arduino board. Once you get the hang of it you can use it to program a number of AVR devices as well as dump programs directly onto the chip…

http://www.geocities.jp/arduino_diecimila/bootloader/index_en.html

Cheers,
Pracas

Once you get the hang of it you can use it to program a number of AVR devices as well as dump programs directly onto the chip…

I haven’t used the Arduino board as a programmer, but I have used the avrdude-GUI-1.0.5 windows program from that linked site and I like it a lot. It gives one a Windows GUI to do all the normal stuff you can do with AVRDUDE without having to type in command line stuff, just click buttons :wink:

Lefty

How come nobody mentioned the brilliant mega-isp? http://code.google.com/p/mega-isp/
I’ve used it with this modified bootloader http://www.wulfden.org/TheShoppe/freeduino/ADABOOT.shtml. Also, virtually no delay from powering up the arduino and the sketch running!
Uploading can be done with avrdude AVR Tutorial - AVRDUDE (seems there’s something wrong with that page at the moment).
A fuse calc is also handy: http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc/

Or the new “Arduino as ISP” that’s built into Arduino 0018. I’ve used it to program ATmega644s as well as '328s.

TchncIFI - is that not just for burning the bootloader to a new chip? From reading the example it seemed that way to me so I didn’t follow up more.

Use the Burn Bootloader > Arduino as AVRISP command.

Maybe I didn’t understand?

Ken H>

I think if you do a little hacking, you can burn any HEX file using that method. I’ve not explored the possibility though.

You know - since burning the bootloader is nothing more than burning a hex file the same as any other hex file, I’ll bet any compatible hex file work work. I might try that over the weekend and if it works I might have to build a simple m168 board with a socket.

That “should” allow to have the new “simple” board connected to USB port, work on sketch, compile, then go to burn bootloader and just choose the new compiled hex file… Naw, I’ll bet that won’t work. I’ll bet the “burn bootloader” option does not give you a “browse” option and burns the hex file that has the correct name in a pre-determined folder? I don’t have the Arduino 0018 here at work to try.

It “could” be done by copying the new hex file to the bootloader folder, then naming the new hex file with same name as bootloader file - I’d expect that to work, but a real hassle.

Does anyone know the answer? Sure would be neat to have that “browse” option.

Ken H>

It “could” be done by copying the new hex file to the bootloader folder, then naming the new hex file with same name as bootloader file - I’d expect that to work, but a real hassle.

That’s what I had in mind. It wouldn’t be too bad! With the new Arduino 0018, it’s not that difficult to add new hardware to the system, meaning it’s easy to add your “board” (which is actually a HEX file) to the list.

I just got home and checked 0018 and yep, it seems to be as we suspected. Wouldn’t adding your board (named hex file) require the file to be the same name all the time?

I think I’ll just stay as I am and use the AVRISP MKII clone thru Studio4 to upload the hex file. a LOTS faster than using the arduino interface, and I do a good bit of uploading via the ISP pins anyway.

Ken H.

but you do have to assemble it

That was half the fun!

Seconds on that kit. Its cheap, works great, and was fun to put together.

Oh, I totally agree half the fun is putting it together… the other half is seeing it work after “I” put it together :slight_smile:

Lady ada has good stuff, but it’s about $28/30 shipped? The one I used is only $11 shipped and I do think they are about the same thing - just doesn’t have a case.

http://www.fun4diy.com/AVRISP_mkII.htm

Check it out.

Ken H>

The one I used is only $11 shipped and I do think they are about the same thing - just doesn’t have a case.

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Check it out.

HOLY COW someone needs to get that guy to ditch that insane tiled background image on his website! I seriously can’t read the text over it - I had to copy/paste it to a text file on my PC so I could read it!