Cannot upload sketch using RS232 serial

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MorganS:
0. Where's the schematic?

  1. Are you sure? Remember the original Arduino has some special handling of RESET when the USB connection opens at 1200 baud.

  2. Yes, but it's the RESET which is important, isn't it?

  3. OK, I believe you.

  4. Yes, probably.

thanks for your response

  1. I will post schematics as soon as I get them down on paper ( all schematics ATmega328 and Max232 are basically straight from datasheets)

  2. No, I am not sure however my conclusion is based on the fact that the FTDI works and is using the same reset circuit..... Could there be a difference on how FTDI handles reset (DTR pulse) as opposed to rs232 serial. also I have tried manually reseting at upload. maybe i'm doing this wrong? as per a website somewhere i hit the reset button as soon as the sketch compiles. this failing, I have hit reset at many different times throughout the upload process.

My conclusions are just that "My conclusions". I expect that there is error within them, otherwise this thing would be working.

somethings that I forgot to include in my OP. I have tried multiple ATmega328... I have tried multiple sketches (including blink and others (proven) copied and pasted into the IDE