Certify a product: stripboard and jumper wires. Possible?

Hi dudes, i need to obtain CE certification on my project.
I really need to understand if it's possible to obtain it using stripboard and jumper wires linked to Arduino.
I know, this is not professional, but my budget is too low to use other money to made a pcb.

I hope you could help me to find a solution.
Thank you and sorry for my bad english.

Delta_G:
The thing about CE is that it is on you to figure that out.

There are companies you can pay to figure it out for you, but if the PCB is out of your budget then that type of service is WAY out of your budget.

The requirements are all posted online. Start here.

I'm out of budget because I included in it the cost of certification. :smiley: So I cannot think about PCB at this moment because lot of people have alredy asked me the product and obviously I cannot sell it if the certification is done.

I don't think you can get CE cert that would apply to final product if you only have something held together with jumper wires to test. I think you need to test the final board...

How can getting a pcb made be out of budget? Pcb fab is cheap! 3 copies for 5 per square inch from osh, ~10 copies for $14 2x2, $25 for 4x4 from dirtypcbs.

It only makes sense to certify a pre production prototype. If you try and certify anything else it will have to be done again before you can make it.

However CE is a self certification system, you do not have to do any specific tests, but if you certify something as complying with CE and it fails to meet the standards then you are liable to a fine of £2000 a day. If you have not shown any attempt to verify compliance then you will be jumped on, if you have made a creditable attempt but something has gone wrong they are more lenient.

The first step is deciding what category your device fits into, that determines what standards the product has to comply with. For example consumer equipment is not permitted to have a temperature on the outside of the box of greater than 40C, where as this is not a restriction on industrial equipment.

So saying:-

i need to obtain CE certification on my project.

Makes little sense.

DrAzzy:
I don't think you can get CE cert that would apply to final product if you only have something held together with jumper wires to test. I think you need to test the final board...

How can getting a pcb made be out of budget? Pcb fab is cheap! 3 copies for 5 per square inch from osh, ~10 copies for $14 2x2, $25 for 4x4 from dirtypcbs.

I didn't know that PCB fab was so cheap! That surprise me.
So, my other question is:

Is it possible to maintain an Arduino board (and his shield) connecting it with a PCB?

I ask this because, as I said, my project uses all the components of the Arduino Uno board.

Grumpy_Mike:
It only makes sense to certify a pre production prototype. If you try and certify anything else it will have to be done again before you can make it.

However CE is a self certification system, you do not have to do any specific tests, but if you certify something as complying with CE and it fails to meet the standards then you are liable to a fine of £2000 a day. If you have not shown any attempt to verify compliance then you will be jumped on, if you have made a creditable attempt but something has gone wrong they are more lenient.

The first step is deciding what category your device fits into, that determines what standards the product has to comply with. For example consumer equipment is not permitted to have a temperature on the outside of the box of greater than 40C, where as this is not a restriction on industrial equipment.

So saying:-Makes little sense.

I just speak to a CE lab wich made (electric and electromagnetics) tests for me. Obviously, it takes me a lot of money but, as you said, it could prevent me contravention.
So my goal would be to pass all the tests or I should do them again

P.S. thank you both for the advice!

I just speak to a CE lab wich made (electric and electromagnetics) tests for me.

This sort of thing is about £800 a day in the UK and you will have to do it again when you change the configuration.

Unless you are going to sell these then it is not necessary to get CE at all. If this is part of an exercise then it is a very expensive one.

When you go to the test house you should be prepared to do some modification if it fails. As I said it is vital you know what category of equipment this is. Not only does it effect the levels of emitted radiations and susceptibility to external radiations, it also affects the other major component of CE the safety requirement. Most probably this will fall under the low voltage directive but unless you are going for battery operated equipment then your mains adapter will have to be included in the tests.

Grumpy_Mike:
Unless you are going to sell these then it is not necessary to get CE at all. If this is part of an exercise then it is a very expensive one.

I know how the CE certification works and the lab explain to me in which categories my project falls. But i don't understand what do you say in this quote. Can you explain me? Isn't the CE necessary if i will sell my product? :o

Pet0:
Is it possible to maintain an Arduino board (and his shield) connecting it with a PCB?

"Shields" are likely not appropriate for production, but it makes certain sense to use Pro Minis or Nanos (the latter if you need continuous USB availability) as modules you just mount (socket or solder) to your custom PCB, avoiding the more difficult SMD soldering tasks. Similarly, you can use modules for Ethernet and such rather than "shields".

That said, certification may require you to stick to a specific manufacturer of the modules.

Paul__B:
"Shields" are likely not appropriate for production, but it makes certain sense to use Pro Minis or Nanos (the latter if you need continuous USB availability) as modules you just mount (socket or solder) to your custom PCB, avoiding the more difficult SMD soldering tasks. Similarly, you can use modules for Ethernet and such rather than "shields".

That said, certification may require you to stick to a specific manufacturer of the modules.

The Pro Minis is really interesting if I could solder it on a PCB! Amazing! (Thank you for this advice).

But my project is based on Motor shield MD10 to prevent the motor stall (5 A).
So, how can I imitate it as module or something else? This is not an ethernet shield and I don't think there is its corresponding module.

That said, certification may require you to stick to a specific manufacturer of the modules.

Not required for CE but is required for UL.

Isn't the CE necessary if i will sell my product?

Yes that is what I said in that quote, are you using google translate?

You originally asked:-

I really need to understand if it's possible to obtain it using stripboard and jumper wires linked to Arduino.
I know, this is not professional, but my budget is too low to use other money to made a pcb.

So do you intend to sell a product that consists of strip board and jumper wires? If so who on earth would buy that? If it is a prototype that you supply to a one off customer only then it doesn't have to be CE certified.

Grumpy_Mike:
So do you intend to sell a product that consists of strip board and jumper wires? If so who on earth would buy that? If it is a prototype that you supply to a one off customer only then it doesn't have to be CE certified.

So, could i sell my prototype just to one customer without CE certification?
Are there laws that regulate this instance? Would you link them?
If so, it could really help me (beta-test).

The CE regulations talk about putting a product in the open market. If some one wants you to make a one off then that is not on the open market. Just think of all the art works that contain electronics none of those have been tested for emissions.