Convert Ebay Webcam to webserver bot

Ok like this guy in this thread http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1272034771 , I also bought a couple of these little cameras ( which by the way work really well for the money) http://cgi.ebay.com/New-WPA-Wireless-WiFi-IP-Internet-PTZ-Dual-Audio-Camera-/220561313027?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCA_Video_Conferencing_Webcams&hash=item335a7a8d03 . Where my idea differs for the other person is i want to take the signal from the stepper motors that control pan and tilt run it through the arduino and use this for driving motion. the little camera already has a great little web-server built in with plenty of options. Is it possible to convert the stepper motor signal to motion using servos as drive motors to power the wheels?

here are a couple of pics of the insides of the camera.

hope this helps. I must tell you now im a NEWBIE when it comes to programing and arduinos. so any help you all can give me will be very much appreciated

Come on guys? no one wants to help me?

"Is it possible to convert the stepper motor signal to motion using servos as drive motors to power the wheels?"

Must be a maybe. Your pictures is not useful, as one just shows it opened up, and the other a connector on a print.

It all depends on how it is made, if it is using some small switches to determine when the ptz has reached the outer points, then maybe it can work.

If the software tracks it by calculating the position to the stepper motor steps, then properly not, as it would then refuse starting the motor when it thinks the ptz reached an outer limit.

So the first thing you need to start with, it to take one of the motors off, and let it spin on the table, and check if it keeps running, or stops at some point and refuses to go any further.

41 minutes to bump a post.
Is this a new record?

Looks like 24 hours and 41 minutes to me.

bld- did alittle test and it does have a limiting switch on the pan im pretty sure it has it on the tilt also just cant get to it. what are your ideas for hooking it to the arduino?

Groove - if your going to be a smartass learn how to tell time first!

@predatorjk
To the Arduino? You didn't mention anything about that, why would you want to do that? Didn't you want to use the web server in the camera to control the wheels? My suggestion to that would just be to either modify the stepmotors to do that with a gear, or directly if possible.

It would seem to be easy to do that, but im looking to do a SKID steer type drive system... so by running the signal from the websever to the arduino a code can be written to tell the drive motors how to drive. example ... when i press the up arrow on the camera controls i want the arduino to tell all 4 servos ( 4 wheel drive) to go forward. When i tell the camera controll to pan left i want the left wheels to go foward and the right to go reverse.... does this make sense?

Makes sense yes... but why then do it like that? A WiShield 2.0 would seem like a much better choice for that.

It would be to out right on top of the Arduino, and you would have the commands directly from the build-in web server in the WiShield

never heard of it ... ill look it up....... thats cool but i would have to start from scratch rewriting at websever software and program the arduino.... the webserver in the camera allows for 2 way communication and some other cool features that i want to keep..... just thought it would be cool to utilize the built in server and just program the arduino to control the wheels....

This is my little sandwitch

Chassis V1.1
WiShield 2.0
Arduino Duemilanove

and I got it connected to my wifi with wpa2-psk encryption.

Do you understand where im going with my idea? your idea is def perfect for a future project i have in mind.... but do u think i can do my idea? is it possible?

It might be possible, but I would say it is a pretty big detour to get there, when there are things made that can do the same you want to do.

Doing it your way you would have to monitor the web server from the camera, and constantly analyze the output from it to determine what it is trying to do.

With the WiShield you tell it to do something instead.

so ur saying my way the arduino would be working overtime just trying to keep up with the commands im giving it?

Not working overtime, but it will work all the time, because it need to check the output from the other server constantly, and analyze it.

can u put me in the right direction for getting this to work?

mainly hooking the camera to board and writting code....

Yes, start reading about how the signal to step motors work, so you know what to make the arduino look for.

My advice?

Take bld's advice to use a wifi shield or something similar; you are going to tear your hair out and waste time, otherwise, unless that's your goal.

You likely won't get -any- info from the manufacturer, even if you manage to find out who they really are. I have a USB PTZ camera at home that works great under 'doze, but I wanted to write drivers for it under Linux. I contacted the company after a long search online; they were the same company that made the chipset in the camera and controller - they wouldn't even talk to me (I even offered to sign an NDA - no go - one would think a manufacturer of hardware would want it to work on as many platforms as possible so as to build a larger client base; one would think a chipset manufacturer would give out datasheets like nearly every other manufacturer - the whole thing was tarded).

Cut your losses, use the camera for what it was designed for, and mount it to a separate platform that can control it - whatever that may be (Arduino, PC motherboard, whatever)...

will i need a motor shield for my arduino to make this work?

If you are going to use servo motors, then it shouldn't be needed, just connect them as they were normal servo motors.

But try looking at how others connected their servo motors to their arduino.

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