Hello
Develop devices to be controlled remotely - from anywhere in the world, I think a transmission channel to be internet.
But I do not want to engage in the development of a protocol, computer software (control panel),....
There is something universal?
I have not found anything like it.
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It's slowly device like controlling rotation web-camera device. But i want to look for both situation: controlling slowly device and controlling fasting device ( for example car-bot).
IvanBiv:
to not have to bother with all this.
I think the purpose of the Forum is to help people who enjoy the bother.
In any case you have not told us anything about the sort of device you want to control or the sort of control you want to have over it. There is a huge difference between controlling the light in your porch twice a day and steering a robot through an obstacle course.
...R
Robin2, thank you. I corrected the first post.
Clearly, you have not thought much about this project. If you can control something from anywhere in the world, someone else can also do it and probably not to your liking.
Paul
You have put in very little effort if you think A) There's nothing like this and B) You are the creative genius that thought of this first.
Make whatever it is you want to make and be able to control it locally first. The last step of getting commands over the internet is really simple once you get there.
Paul_KD7HB:
Clearly, you have not thought much about this project. If you can control something from anywhere in the world, someone else can also do it and probably not to your liking.Paul
Of course, the necessary security through the authorization, authentication, ...
That's just the point that in fact the control system is not so simple as it might seem at first glance.
I need a ready mechanism. I have no way to develop a control system, but I develop the devices themselves, and it's my job.
INTP:
You have put in very little effort if you think A) There's nothing like this and B) You are the creative genius that thought of this first.
Indeed I ask a common question with no details. The reason is that in the long term, this mechanism I want to use in many of my projects, these projects are united by one idea - the remote control.
INTP:
Make whatever it is you want to make and be able to control it locally first. The last step of getting commands over the internet is really simple once you get there.
This of course)) It's my work.
IvanBiv:
Indeed I ask a common question with no details. The reason is that in the long term, this mechanism I want to use in many of my projects, these projects are united by one idea - the remote control.
That is not sufficient.
I'm sure you are as aware as I am that the two principal means of world-range communication are the internet and sms messages by mobile phone. Anything else would be both expensive and technically complex.
If you want advice about how to send messages securely using either of those systems then this is not the place to ask that question - it is a question for a Forum dealing with internet or phone communication.
And the other issue is that neither of those systems can be relied on to deliver a message within X millisecs of it being sent and that must impact on the sorts of system they can be used to control.
...R
Robin2:
If you want advice about how to send messages securely using either of those systems then this is not the place to ask that question - it is a question for a Forum dealing with internet or phone communication.
I thought someone here might be faced with such a problem before.
Could you recommend resources where I can ask the question?
Robin2:
And the other issue is that neither of those systems can be relied on to deliver a message within X millisecs of it being sent and that must impact on the sorts of system they can be used to control.
Yes, I understand it. And it suits me.
The main thing for me, so it was a simple decision to use. Of course it is paid, I think.
I can make myself something like that, but I do not want to, because it will take time, I think there need a server (it is necessary to maintain), writing programs, think about the protocol, all debug and maintain.
IvanBiv:
Could you recommend resources where I can ask the question?
I find Google very useful.
...R
thank you
Perhaps some background for my answer will help.
Three years ago or so, my company built 100 sets of circuit boards for a large corporation. We did not know much about the project, but the design engineer told us a bit more. The boards all worked in the test units being tested by company employees and the results were satisfactory, but the company never followed up by releasing the product.
The device burned wood pellets and was remotely controlled and monitored by smart phone, just as the OP is suggesting. The reason is security and liability. I am sure the company lawyers convinced the management that they did not want to be anywhere near when a house burned while there device was on the premises.
So, the challenge is not remote control or even security, but being prepared to find an insurance policy that will back you up when your device causes property damage or even death.
Paul
Paul, thank you.
I understand you.
But man, any activity can bring both benefit and harm.
We must try to do useful things and help people, if this is not done, the development (as well as any other activity) must not be engaged.
This is an excellent article with a great example of product failure because of security problems: The Half-Baked Security Of Our 'Internet Of Things'.
To find a place to ask questions and get answers, attend security conferences, follow security blogs, subscribe to security publications. Find someone else with the same vision you have and team up with them.
Paul
Have you used the "SHODAN" web browser to look at all the current industrial control systems out there? And the possible secure protocols that are available? given enough time you can discover cameras that you can operate and see pictures, you can find wind turbines that you can monitor.
Every wind turbine you see across the world is connected to the internet and someone can control it. Hopefully, only the good guys.
Subscribe to the Shodan blogs, perhaps they can be of help.
Paul
IvanBiv:
But man, any activity can bring both benefit and harm.
If you buy a product and as a result of its failure your wife dies will you just write to the company who made it and say "No problem, sh*t happens".
And even if you were prepared to do that, suppose the product killed you, could the company rely on a similar letter from your widow?
...R
Paul, thank you very much.
I am very grateful to you for your assistance!
It is very important information for me.
Your materials say that me need a good think about safety.
Paul, You as an expert in electronics. Do you know where I can find minded on the issue raised? Expect Google )
Robin2:
If you buy a product and as a result of its failure your wife dies will you just write to the company who made it and say "No problem, sh*t happens".And even if you were prepared to do that, suppose the product killed you, could the company rely on a similar letter from your widow?
...R
We all use cars, airplanes, electricity, elevators, climb skyscrapers, cross the road, eat food from the store,...
What you write?!
Of course I like the developer should ensure the safety, reliability, quality, this definitely.
Yes, Google! I looked for "safety engineering" and found a bunch of information. Also, look for safety engineering classes in your country. Probably university level, but perhaps community college, as well. Look for engineering groups, associations in your area. Even in a small area as Central Oregon, there is a group of engineers with various backgrounds that meet to help each other. They are coming to visit my company later on this month.
You REALLY need to get out and make friends with similar interests!
Paul
IvanBiv:
We all use cars, airplanes, electricity, elevators, climb skyscrapers, cross the road, eat food from the store,...
And the makers of those products are regularly sued by their customers for $millions when things go wrong.
Volkswagen can afford it. I can't.
...R