Try it with a pcb Breadboard
Hey there!
I have already tried it in Kicad and surrendered 
Did you go to that URL i posted? You know, if you're serious about learning EDA, you have to study the documentation. Sure YT videos in all their glory, but it can't compete with learning the old fashion way!
Yes I did, thanks, "RTFM" is a pain, Google it, LOL I will keep trying
If I may add to the dog pile... Relay modules (blue cubes, but not the breadboard-ready, 3-pin circuit board) have five pins, with the center pin at 1/2 space. Grr.