Ebay Due Clones...

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New Due SAM3X8E 32-bit ARM Cortex-M 100% Compatible For Arduino

It amazes me how cheap these guys can do this board for and still make profit :fearful:

consider that probably price of the chip is less than 10$..other component of the final price are:
other component(i think less than 6 $ )
assembling
TAX
designers and workers
a little profit
other things..

if you move all in china, prices fall down

Was there a question you need help with?

The seller won't let me bid as I am not locked into PayPal. :0

@Paul, that is a little off topic I think. Well heck the whole post is off topic I guess. LOL
No need to bid, if it does not work!
It seems many items that are declared to work with Arduino, have no specifications as to how! Maybe if we start asking them how to make it work with arduino, and if they don't know, we give the a less than desired rating on ebay. I mean, if they say it will work, but it does not, why should we give them a good rating???? I know, we are nice guys, but are we being nice guys to the next one that buys the product " declared to work with arduino"?

Maybe it is just me.

Now getting further OT, but have you noticed how many Chinese suppliers enclose a slip urging 5* DSR? I wonder why? Most don't even tell you who they are, so if you have spread ordered (Ok, two orders for the same thing!) you have no idea who to leave feedback for.

jackwp:
I mean, if they say it will work, but it does not, why should we give them a good rating???? I know, we are nice guys, but are we being nice guys to the next one that buys the product " declared to work with arduino"?

Of course, you have to buy the thing to post a rating.

dannable:
have you noticed how many Chinese suppliers enclose a slip urging 5* DSR? I wonder why? Most don't even tell you who they are, so if you have spread ordered (OK, two orders for the same thing!) you have no idea who to leave feedback for.

I have been encountering that problem. Of course, it turns out that so many of the item descriptions from "different" sellers look identical and it turns out that they are merely either the same seller using different names, or his brother/ sister on the other side of the room. It is possible that they do this to avoid "unfavourable" feedback. Overall it is quite startling to consider just what their environment must be like. Also fascinating to consider their inventories of (sometimes tens of) thousands of items.

I am particular about testing all items before offering feedback. This makes it all the more difficult as actually putting many items into service requires setting up the necessary programs, finding power supplies, speakers, etc. and I just put them aside for "later", so sometimes (often) the feedback goes wanting.

I have been "bitten" by some totally bogus SD cards. Will wait for the refund, and then provide "positive" feedback for the honest refund service, but a warning comment nevertheless.

One seller I use, who's images are often plastered with that of another seller(!) has so many items listed that eBay cannot display them all if you search by seller.

And I really have to ask why my trans-Atlantic cousins have suddenly become so friendly with Red China? And why have they become so hungry for our business?

Well, it requires we be pro active with sellers reviews and request for satisfactory products, else, where does it all end up. We can't dismiss our responsibility and just be complacent!

jackwp:
Well, it requires we be pro active with sellers reviews and request for satisfactory products, else, where does it all end up. We can't dismiss our responsibility and just be complacent!

IMO the Ebay ratings system is broken. I cannot find a seller (looking for items, not bad sellers) with a rating below 98.5%. Some of the negative feedback is disheartening, and there are enough sellers to go elsewhere, but for the most part, 1000 good sales this month far outweighs 20 bad, unless you're one of the 20.

dannable:
One seller I use, who's images are often plastered with that of another seller(!) has so many items listed that eBay cannot display them all if you search by seller.

Not sure what you are describing here. The full number of items is listed at the top; what sort of numbers would comprise "so many"?

I always select 200 items per listing page (at the bottom), rather than 25, 50 or 100 which just wastes time. At the bottom also are links to another four or so listing pages in order, as you move into deeper listings, you are offered a couple of previous and a couple of succeeding listing pages each time. If you wish to "game" this system and skip pages, you can simply alter the URL.

What annoys me most is that (other than "Most recent first" which makes some sense) the listing tends to default to the quite useless "Price, lowest first" instead of "Price plus postage, lowest first" which is the only really relevant criterion as the system apparently makes no provision for accreting items for postage and the insane postage charges from American sellers (at least to overseas destinations) render them largely uncompetitive.

aarondc:

jackwp:
Well, it requires we be pro active with sellers reviews and request for satisfactory products, else, where does it all end up. We can't dismiss our responsibility and just be complacent!

IMO the Ebay ratings system is broken. I cannot find a seller (looking for items, not bad sellers) with a rating below 98.5%. Some of the negative feedback is disheartening, and there are enough sellers to go elsewhere, but for the most part, 1000 good sales this month far outweighs 20 bad, unless you're one of the 20.

The feedback is recalculated every 3 months as well, I believe. I had some bad feedback from a 12 year old kid that used his parent's credit card to buy an Xbox 360 from me. My feedback score is 100% positive right now.

aarondc:
... and there are enough sellers to go elsewhere ...

That's the interesting point. Certainly we know there are quite a few people over there in China, and huge markets with all sorts of goods, but the rote repetition of the graphics and text between "different" sellers (on eBay) is spooky.

It is obvious that many sellers trade under different names for whatever reason - I sent the same complaint to two "sellers" regarding the same (bogus) item and was told that they were of course, the same. Taking that into account, it seems that the market may be considerably narrower than it appears at first.
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Pretty freaky when you find a company doing it in your own back yard... o.0

TopOnlineSale: http://stores.ebay.com.au/Top-Online-Sale?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

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Weeeeeird?