Flashing LED + Nano 33 + LiPo Battery

Hello! I'm starting a new project to add some flashing LED lights to a small RC car. Space is limited so I have to try to minimize the use of components.

The idea I originally had was to use an Arduino Nano 33 and about 20 or 25 3V SMD 402 LEDs. To power the circuit I had thought of using a LiPo battery but I have seen that the available options are 3.7V so I am not sure if it is a good idea...

I had thought of installing the battery with the option of disconnecting it once discharged and charging it with a specific external charger.

I ask for your advice on whether to use a battery of this type or look for another alternative. Thank you very much in advance!

Depends on the specs of the load which you haven't included, nor the ah of the battery in question, nor how long you expect it to run.

The load adding all the LEDS will be about 400-500mA.
The battery (752035) is 400mAh, 3,7V.
Running time will not exceed 5-10 minutes, it is for short demonstrations

Thanks again

Looked up that number of the battery and all specs mentioned 400mah, not 480mah.

Think you should have said you load is around 400 to 500 ma, not mah.

Battery capacity are usually rated over a certain time as are their charge rates.

This discharge can be C5 or 5 hours. You'll need to check to see if it will indeed supply 500ma for 5 to 10 minutes and still maintain it's pd.

Hello! Yes, absolutely right, it is now corrected in my previous answer. My main concern is based on the different nominal voltages of the board, battery and LEDs as I mentioned in my initial post. The battery time can be more flexible. Thank you!

You may suffer brown outs if you supply LEDs and the Arduino board from the same battery ...and it is subjected to high current demand (relative to the battery).
Try it and see I guess.

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That cell is rated 20C. This means it should be able to deliver 20 * 400 mA, or 8 amperes of current.

400 mAH goes away in three minutes. at 8 amps. With just 500 mA, the cell would deliver for 48 minutes, and would not be breaking a sweat. Lipos are an amazing source of power.

That's only theoretical. I would be happy taking 4 amps continuously with 8 amps briefly, and expect three or four minutes of joy.

You can get small boost/buck regulators to make a constant 3.3 volts as the cell voltage goes from 4.2 to as low as you plan to go, which I hope you realize is one good way to ruin the battery (discharge too far).

I use cells like that and don't usually discharge below 3.3 volts (under load) or so - I get less time with it, but they last much longer. Same with charging… any place you stop less than 4.2 volts will add to cell life as you would measure by the number of times you can charge it and use it.

You could use a linear low dropout voltage regulator and power your device with just the lipo cell and that regulator. You'd get quite a good fraction of the full capacity even with the waste that woukd be.

How are you driving the LEDs?

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That 20c is for short bursts.
Op can check complete specs here which recommends a 1c rate for discharge.

https://temperosystems.com.au/products/lipo-battery-752035-3-7v-400mah-high-discharge-polymer-lithium-ion/

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Okay, I understand. In that case, as the colleague says below, it may be better to look for a battery that has approximately 1C.

I planned to connect the LEDs to the digital pins of the Arduino Nano. As the LEDs will not all be on at the same time, they should not exceed the maximum amperage of the board.

Will it be possible to connect this way even if the LEDs are rated 3V? Or should I use a resistor between the pins and each LED?

Thanks again for your time!

Board,assuming you mean the Arduino board, will never handle 400ma.

You'll need a switching element such as a transistor or mosfet plus a couple of resistors.

No.

High Discharge Battery is designed to supply a continuous discharge rate of 25C over a brief time

A brief time is a 4 minute flight, The Hubsan quadcopter mentioned prolly draws 4 amps average.

Short bursts in this context woukd be like when you jam down the throttle and ascend as rapidly as the vehicle can.

The real problem is the connector (2 amps). These connectors are routinely used way over spec.

The OP only needs 500 mA. So this discussion is moot. Certainly 1000 would be well within any concerns.

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Not my words but the spec specifically stated.
Faq's and reviews...paragraph 2.

Either way, like I said originally, try it and see.

The Faq's and reviews tab leads to no text, no entries. I'll try another browser when I can.

Meanwhile the first sentence of the Description reads

LiPo Battery 752035 (3.7V 400mAh) High Discharge Polymer Lithium Ion These Cells are Designed with 25C discharge.


This is why they are great for R.C. cars, planes, and drones...

So if something I can't see yet says different, I guess we get to take our pick. Since I have gotten all the life out of very many of this kind of cell, routinely pulling multiple amps during the brief joy which discharging them can afford, I'll go with the description that says that the cell is designed for that use case.

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