Fritzing Pictures- Why they are not preferred.

When someone posts a Fritzing picture and calls it a schematic, I respond like someone just ran their fingernails across a blackboard.

Fritzing pictures are the Lego toys of circuit designs. Practically useless to any engineer, and when posted, many frequenters of these boards won't bother to convert them to a real schematic that they understand.

Here's an example of a really useless Fritzing picture:

Here's the same circuit drawn with Eagle (free version):

There is a potential problem in this design, but it only becomes obvious in the real schematic. Unless you know the Arduino Uno well, it doesn't show in the Fritzing picture.

This is why schematic drawings are preferred. It doesn't have to be done with a program like Eagle; a hand-drawn schematic on an envelope is preferred over a Fritzing picture. Especially when the circuit design may be the problem we're looking for.

I hate the pictogragh's as well, but it is NOT fritzing's fault it does schematics just fine.
We just need people to post the schematic view instead of the picture.

To be generous, a really carefully made Fritz might be useful just to lay out a prototype. But seldom are they carefully made. You can see some reasonable ones in the "official" tutorials.

No one spotted the problem?

Hutkikz:
I hate the pictogragh's as well, but it is NOT fritzing's fault it does schematics just fine.
We just need people to post the schematic view instead of the picture.

This is the cleanest Fritzing schematic I've ever seen. They usually have ground symbols pointing in every direction, crossed lines at strange angles. Very little optimization.

Instead of purchasing or downloading software, I just take out a sheet of paper and a pencil :wink:

No one spotted the problem?

SDA

No one spotted the problem?

When someone uses a separate supply for those relay modules and then they proceed to eliminate opto isolation by adding ground wires to the Arduino, I respond like someone just ran their fingernails across a blackboard.

SteveMann:
No one spotted the problem?

I'm not going to be tested heheh. But, a few second look at the fritzing pic you posted, showed a bunch of blue lines going out out to lots of devices. And each device has only 1 blue line connected to it. And those devices not only have no labels for the pin .......... they also just one 1 line connected to them. Normally, those externally connected devices will have other connections - such as GND connection.

Anyway, I'm sure that a fritzing pic could contain adequate information in them - if enough effort is put in. And that effort should include making the pic 'accurate'.

But - whether it is a fritzing pic or a schematic ------ it's important to put in an adequate amount of detail, and needs to be accurate.

Although, it is excusable (sometimes) for beginners and novices to miss out some detail.

If the purpose is to show a new user how to connect up a simple circuit on a breadboard, and the images are clear, with clear markings, and the wires are carefully drawn without obscuring any important detail (pin numbers etc.), then I find Fritzing diagrams OK.
I always have to look carefully at the led they use, the one with a bent knee wire for a polarity marker, though, to work out which is supposed to be ground.

6v6gt:
I always have to look carefully at the led they use, the one with a bent knee wire for a polarity marker, though, to work out which is supposed to be ground.

Except perhaps for those LEDs for which the substrate is the anode. :astonished:

Paul__B:
Except perhaps for those LEDs for which the substrate is the anode. :astonished:

What I meant was the component image that is used for the led. It appears that there is no standard for what the "bent knee" indicates. For example :

taken from here: PCB: from Concept to design to fabrication and testing using Fritzing. the usage tends to indicate that the "bent knee" is the cathode.

Other variants I have seen imply that the "bent knee" type leds have built in current limiting resistors, and the bent knee indicates the anode:

+1 for SDA.

6v6gt:
It appears that there is no standard for what the "bent knee" indicates.

Since it does not actually exist. :grinning:

I was referring to the image showing the pin stock inside the encapsulation where the chip mounts. This is usually the cathode, but there are variations.

TheUNOGuy:
Instead of purchasing or downloading software, I just take out a sheet of paper and a pencil :wink:

That is preferred over Fritzing, and where all of my projects begin. But Eagle is free for small projects.