@jim-p I did actually. I'm not a pic person. I just did a standard search on pic from mouser which i normally order from and Seeing almost difference in price. however the pic is higher then the samd21g18a processor I have been using lately which is on the arduino zero board. pic is about $7.35 USD and D21 is around $4.25 singles. in multiples pic is $6.10 and D21 is $3.21 USD. the specs might be not the same or close to same. I was just looking up in general pricing.