Maybe a stupid question but its one that i need to ask. I am a newbee in electronics and i have made a simple prototype with the arduino, all is working well and the programm is behaving like it was programmed too.
Now i would like to go beyond the arduino and make it into a single piece of hardware.
The following questions pop in mind:
Can i use the same atmel as on the arduino?
do i need to burn a bootloader on it or can i burn my programm on a empty atmel?
Could i use the Arduino to burn my programm on an empty atmel or do i need another programmer for the task?
I hope i have made my questions clear and sorry if they are a bit dumb but like i said i am a newbee wrestling through the wonders of electronics
Another question, you have mentioned to buy a seperate programmer. I know for PC users there is alot to choose from, the problem is that i am working on OSX which has only usb and firewire connections. What programmer is usb and would work with my mac (brand, make etc)
Also a website of that particular atmel programmer would be nice, kind of curious on what kind of atmel chips i can use with it.
Also would it be possible to burn directly to the programmer using the arduino sketch software, i noticed there is a new version (00011) which mentions something like that in the improvemend release notes.
Thank you so much for the answers!
Another question, you have mentioned to buy a seperate programmer. I know for PC users there is alot to choose from, the problem is that i am working on OSX which has only usb and firewire connections. What programmer is usb and would work with my mac (brand, make etc)
Also a website of that particular atmel programmer would be nice, kind of curious on what kind of atmel chips i can use with it.
I don't have one myself but this one:
seems to be the one most commonly used... (its USB)
Also would it be possible to burn directly to the programmer using the arduino sketch software, i noticed there is a new version (00011) which mentions something like that in the improvemend release notes.
@triffid That link is what i need! Thanks
Looks like an affordable usb programmer, i do read that the firmware needs to be installed through linux before the programmer will be OS independend thats a bit of a bummer since i do not have a working linux machine anymore, but i do know people that have so i will ask around!
and parallel......i know that its simple but like i said before i am working on a G5 which doesn't have parallel or serial ports for that mather anymore, thats why it needs to be usb as i don't wanna work on converting stuff using parallel to usb converters.
Anyway are there people here that work with this programmer on OSX? What are the experiences?
@triffid That link is what i need! Thanks
Looks like an affordable usb programmer
The "AVR ISP mkII" mentioned in the link http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3808 sells for 40Euros in Germany. You'll miss the fun of soldering the SMD-parts, but if its only for the money you should check you local resellers.
Herzliche dank fur der Tip Eberhard!!!, i got friends in germany so if for some reason buying in the netherlands is more expensive i will ask one of my friends to order and ship it to me! But i will call my local electronics reseller first.....