Genuino Brand

.cc vs .org 0-1 :confused:

Not unexpected the way the products are being rebranded.

I wish .cc would sort out what products they intend to sell. It looks as though the GPRS shield and Starter Kit are now .org products. Still, it gives .cc the opportunity to revise the design and take on board the criticism of those items...

I'm anxious to see the result of the court cases in USA and Italy. I'm certainly rooting for Arduino LLC (arduino.cc) to get the Arduino name recognition world-wide. I made that clear a while back: http://www.amazon.com/review/R3PXVMNU7Z7049/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00US73ZIO&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=541966&store=pc

Link is broken

Fixed it. The URL button in the comment editor here on the forum is broken I think. I had to manually edit the link. anyway, it's fixed now.

Arduino.org thinks they are winning? Arduino LLC is now selling boards in the US. I think the boards will be available soon in Europe and Asia.

Sincerely, I'd just drop Arduino name with all the sorrow of the world and rapidly embrace Genuino. Thereby things would be a lot clearer for all of us (and newies over all) in the future.

After publishing an interview with Massimo BANZI, Hackaday publishes this with Federico MUSTO.

Both views are equally published, the author of the article remained neutral.

68tjs: After publishing an interview with Massimo BANZI, Hackaday publishes this with Federico MUSTO.

Both views are equally published, the author of the article remained neutral.

Here's the link: http://hackaday.com/2015/07/23/hackaday-interviews-federico-musto-of-arduino-srl/

What a mess. I still think Gianluca Martino deceptively and with less-than-perfectly-honorable intentions went behind the whole team's back, but Arduino SRL does have some really cool products. I'm not Hackaday, so I don't have to be neutral. I still want both companies to succeed and sell cool and useful products, but I really also hope that Arduino SRL does it under another name.....

In other words, when this is all said and done, I want there to be one Arduino....owned by the founding majority (Arduino LLC, who really owns the most significant portion of the product lines--namely, the firmware, codebase, and community support and networking), and I want Arduino SRL to continue as a company...under some other name.

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One more time there is no question of constituting a people's court to designate a culprit. It is just a matter of having independent information [u]from both[/u] [u]parts[/u].

This enabled me to discover that: "Among --other sources of money, [Daniela Antonietti] had mortgaged her house to pay for a professional reflow oven" This is a sign of a strong personal involvement in the Arduino project that deserves respect.

But this does not turn Musto into an angel.

What about Arduino Yun?

finally the first "Genuio" Boards arrived in Europe (Germany) --> http://www.exp-tech.de/catalogsearch/result/?q=Genuino (manufactured by Seeed Studio ?)

Why only three boards (UNO, Micro and Mega) has changed its name to Genuino? Why other boards (Yun, Due, Zero...) still are named Arduino? What a mess...

It is very difficult to get reliable information. The conflict over the ownership of the Arduino brand does not help to see clearly.

Arduino brand: seems to belong - USA: --> Arduino LLC - Europe (and rest of the world?) --> Arduino SRL

To have cards manufactured under Genuino brand it is necessary to find a manufacturer who accept to manufacture they. For a manufacturer agrees to manufacture boards, he must be able to make money with, and therefore it is necessary that the cards have a future.

DUE Does this board has a future?

Zero: The same board is available in two different name: Zero and M0-pro. Both versions were realized with "active" help of Atmel, indeed it is Atmel who does the two designs.

The distribution of sales [u]appears[/u] to be: - USA: only Atmel Zero, boards manufactured in Europe [u]directly by Atmel[/u] - Rest of world: only Atmel M0-pro, boards manufactured in Europe by Arduino SRL My understanding is that Atmel does not want a conflict between Arduino jeopardize the sale of "his" product. IMHO it is Atmel who imposed the distribution area of sales between Zero and M0-pro

Yun: It is even less clear. It seems, but maybe I'm wrong, that the most important part of Yun have been designed by Musso (Arduino SRL). [u]What is the real status of the card? Very hard to say[/u]. All Arduino boards are cloned by Chinese except Yun -> bizarre isn't it

Delicate point: Independently of Yun status, Arduino SRL will realise in November, a new version of Yun ( Arduino Industrial 1001) and an improved version (Arduino Tian) with ARM 32 bits SAMD21 instead of avr 8 bits . Which manufacturer will agree to start a new production line with a product that may be obsolete ?

To be attractive Arduino LLC must release rapidly new products, old products are the past.

Now it is not possible to make an announcement and get out the product two years later. The product should be available at most two months after the announcement.

68tjs: To be attractive Arduino LLC must release rapidly new products, old products are the past.

surely NO, to be attractive arduino LLC must give support to the new products (e.g. zero and wifi-101) almost one and a half year ago this new products were announced, and now, so much time later, still almost no standard-library is working with the zero without any conflict or necessary tweaks...

Great to see this wonderful product becoming available world wide!

Roibal:
Great to see this wonderful product becoming available world wide!

But it isn’t!! All of the major electronics suppliers, who provide devices for the UK are stocking the “Arduino” not the “Genuino” … The only conclusion that can be drawn from what is being said is that the boards they are selling are coming from Arduino SRL. A company that I have no desire to support given their immoral behavior and absolute abuse of the name.

The electronics suppliers have no incentive to stock “Genuino” because apart from people digging into the details of this fiasco, nobody knows what the bloody hell a Genuino is!!! and everybody knows what an Arduino is or at least what it should be. Most people are totally unaware of the legal wrangle. And are therefore being duped by Arduino SRL.

I would rather be supporting Arduino LLC and ensuring that they get the royalty payment that they should be getting. Especially given that they get none from those thieves at Arduino SRL. But if none of the major UK suppliers are listing the Genuino as a product line then that is near to impossible here.

The “Genuino” brand is just a very very bad idea! It would have been all well and good to re-brand and name them “Genuine Arduino” but trying to create a cute Genuino name is falling flat and is just entirely confusing all the people new to this. Like Me!! I had to spend days trying to unpick this mess so that I could understand what it was I wanted to buy and use. And now I know what I should be buying I can’t get it in the UK… NOT A GOOD SITUATION!

Best Regards,
Fozzy The Bear.

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Does anybody know the status of the Duinotech devices sold by Jaycar in NZ. Are they part of the family?

I have a 16x2 LCD from freetronics, and one from Duinotech and they are not the same electrically.

I can not find a circuit diagram for this board anywhere