gps500

I'm new to the arduino, have done a few small things like lighting leds and lcd output but I haven't been able to get my gps working. I have a couple of microsoft gps500's laying around and have tried reading the data from them without any luck. I have seen a few people saying that they got it working and have posted the pinout. I have tried but all I get is garbage data like when the com ports aren't at the same speed. I have tried several examples all with the same result. I have tried tinygps and some of the NewSoftSerial code (which I can't even seem to get their example working correctly, no output at all from there example let alone gps).

This guys post says just plug it in and start reading nmea data (Can't post link in first post) but I have seen others that say it's TTL and you need a TTL converter such as max232. I haven't gone that route since I'm new and would like to understand why but I have used a transistor with a 10k and 1k resistor (exactly like liteon xbox probe) that should work the same.

Has anyone been able to get one of these working properly? I have been at this for a few days on and off and am getting disheartened. I promised myself I wouldn't by any new sensors to play with at least until I had figured the gps out. I also have the usb adapter that does the ttl conversion, but I don't know what to solder to what and tha twould also go against some of the posts saying I should just be able to read nmea without it.

You can post that link now

but I have seen others that say it's TTL and you need a TTL converter such as max232.

The arduino is TTL and your GPS is not so the output of the GPS must be converted.

but I have used a transistor with a 10k and 1k resistor (exactly like liteon xbox probe) that should work the same.

I haven't seen that so post a link but I am assuming that you got it wrong.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imager/4383334403/ and here's the other that talks about TTL http://ubermodder.com/budget-usb-enabled-gps/

Data out, 4800 baud RS-232 NMEA format

From the first link

http://xbox-experts.com/tutorial/flash-your-liteon-for-free/

This is the link that talk about converting the serial. I could just be completely wrong on all of this too.