Help to choose the motor

Here you can see how my new project looks roughly (please download the file first and then open it):

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70391886/box.mp4

The basic idea is to replace the deck with one another deck with rotational mechanism.

Please see the attached pictures. They are the side and front views of my design.
R1 = Distance from the center point to the edge of Cradle
R2 = Distance from the center point to the edge of Platform
Center point of R1 and R2 should be same.
Thickness of gap = R2-R1

I have to use a timing pulley on the motor and one on the deck shaft, connect these two with matching timing belt.
I can hide the timing pulley from the deck shaft in the side of the box.

Requirements for the motor:

constant speed
really accurate (200 steps/rev or 400 steps/rev)
very quiet
powerful enough (Holding Torque)

Do you think that Nema 17 and Adafruit Motor Shield V2 are the good choice??
The "cradle" will most likely be made ??of wood or metal..


Here's one

Note the voltage rating of the motor (3V) .
Adafruit motor driver,

instead of a L293D darlington driver, we now have the TB6612 MOSFET driver: with 1.2A per

Since you have mosfets on the Adafruit motor driver, you can use a motor supply voltage of 4.5V.
You can use one of these for your motor voltage and power it with a 12V rechargable gel cell battery.
You certainly CANNOT power your motors from the arduino 5V regulator so you will need a separate motor power suppy anyway.
The advantage of a dc to dc converter like this is that it allows you to use a commonly available voltage (like 12V) and reduce it with the voltage adjust pot on the dc to dc converter.

http://www.newark.com/murata-power-solutions/okr-t-6-w12-c/dc-dc-conv-non-iso-pol-1-o-p-30w/dp/55R2360?mckv=sRjoPtauu|pcrid|41566056141|plid|&CMP=KNC-GPLA

Do you really need a stepper for this ?

A geared motor with limit switches may be cheaper.

raschemmel:
Can you provide the connection diagram where 12V rechargable gel cell battery and dc to dc converter are used??

Boardburner2:
I'm looking for the best solution because the prices aren't so high for both cases..

raschemmel:
Here's one
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10846

Note the voltage rating of the motor (3V) .

I am not commenting on whether that motor is suitable - it may or may not. Have you measured how much torque you need?

It is very important to realize that the voltage rating for stepper motors is largely irrelevant - it is normal to run motors at a much higher voltage than the nominal figure. What matters is the coil resistance and the maximum current.

A motor shield or an L298 is a poor choice for controlling a stepper motor. You should use a proper stepper motor driver shield such as the Pololu DRV8825 which should be suitable for that motor. Using a proper stepper motor driver board will allow you to power a nominally 3v motor with 12, 24 or even 36volts to get much better torque at higher speeds. The stepper motor driver board can be set to limit the current to prevent the high voltage from frying the motor. The proper stepper motor driver board also makes programming much easier.

Stepper motors tend not to be quiet.

Also note that the holding torque only applies when the motor is stationary. The torque decreases as speed increases.

...R

Without knowing the torque required to rotate the cradle there's no way to say.

You need to measure or estimate the torque as a first step.

The only parameter available to me is the load. I have to control the load of max 0.7 kg (cradle with decks).
I intend to rotate the mass, not lift, neither slide it.
I have to hide the motor on bottom of the box and therefore use timing pulley and timing belt to connect them.
I don't know yet the values of diameters.
The speed of rotation would be constant and low (for a full revolution cca 5s) and without acceleration.

For this stepper motor the torque is:

HOLDING TORQUE: 48 N.cm Min
DETENT TORQUE: 2.2 N.cm Max

Does this torque would be enough to rotate the load?

potter3366:
The only parameter available to me is the load. I have to control the load of max 0.7 kg (cradle with decks).
I intend to rotate the mass, not lift, neither slide it.

Does this torque would be enough to rotate the load?

The data you have given is not sufficient to answer that question.

For example, if the load was mounted so it was perfectly balanced and you have very low friction bearings you would only require a tiny amount of torque once you have the thing up to speed.

On the other hand if most of the 0.7kg is on one side it would be like lifting and dropping the mass repeatedly.

And you might have crude high friction bearings.

Make a reasonable mock-up and measure the torque.

My GUESS is that the motor would be adequate - but don't come to me for your money back if I am wrong.

...R

What should I have to do to get the torque value?
Sorry to be asking such a basic question..

Build it and measure it.
You may be able to estimate mathematicaly, i suspect tht involves calculus though.

Measure it. Perhaps google "measuring torque"? drum, thread and small weights-basket
is one way. Once measured, double the value to give a good margin of error.

Also the MoI (moment of inertia) would be good to know, it will affect the max acceleration rate. Torque = MoI x angular-acceleration

google Torque calculator when you work out weight there are lots out there there is some that include gravity as well

I think that I'm getting on this way very small value:

add extra to your mass in-case you made a mistake, with stepper you need to be bang on or leave your self some wiggle room

If I add 100000 x mass it's still less than 48 Ncm

that sounds very wrong use a calculator like this one Force Equation Formulas Calculator - Force Mass Acceleration or this one I have used it and it was correct Acceleration of a Mass

48 ncm is a powerful motor.
More suited to drivimg machine tools than what you are attempting.

.00086NM = .086 NcM.

Thanks Boardburner2!

Which model do you recommend then?

I would not use a stepper.

I would build it first then experiment.

Possibly a cheap servo or a geared model motor.
Then again i have a fair few knocking around.

The advantage of using a servo is no driving circuitry needs building.
Just needs pulse modulation out of the arduino.

If this was for a shop display and your video is representative , i would not use any of the above.

Id use an ac mains geared shaded pole motor and oscilating mechanics, these can be totaly silent.

Edit

Example of stepper motor noise

Can I control this motors with arduino with good precision?

Please post some links..