Highly Anticipated 32-bit "Due" due When?

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#175

funkyguy4000:

MichaelMeissner: Maybe on October 22nd, it will be a fully announced product, or maybe not. Even if it is announced, we will see what the initial availability is (hopefully better than Raspberry-pi, but who knows).

Its already been announced. In fact the reason it isn't out for purchase right now is because they are preparing for a release and the ARM chip that it uses isn't very widely avaliable right now. They said that it WILL be out for purchase on the 22nd. I don't see how you can still think its vaporware.

Where is this so-called announcement on arduino.cc? Yes, it was evidently 'announced' at Maker Faire, but until they actually get around to listing in their hardware pages as an official product (http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Hardware), or at least having an entry on the main page that gives the specifications and pictures, it is still vapour-ware IMHO.

#176

This is from another (non Arduino) forum

They talked about changes to the IDE that it will make it easier to add other compilers and platforms to the IDE but I'm not sure what they meant as they didn't go into much detail. I assume they mean the IDE can be modified to support chipKIT, netduino or other arduino style modules but don't know for sure. They also mentioned that a version of DUE would have internet embedded in the module with a future release chip. Again not much detail. They had the designer of the Atmel AVR talk but I fast forwarded through that as it appeared to be an Atmel commercial rather than an Arduino update. That took about half the time.

That's about 500% more that we've heard here or from any official source.

Good to see that the Arduino PR machine is working at full steam.

So according to that there is not a new IDE, just an upgraded IDE. =(

EDIT: Youtube video of the talk posted here

http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,113460.new.html#new

Rob

#177

MichaelMeissner: Where is this so-called announcement on arduino.cc? Yes, it was evidently 'announced' at Maker Faire, but until they actually get around to listing in their hardware pages as an official product (http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Hardware), or at least having an entry on the main page that gives the specifications and pictures~~, it is still vapour-ware IMHO~~.

Quoted for emphasis (although I don't personally consider it vapor-ware).

I only consider an announcement official if it's made to the general public through a direct company associated medium. Maker Faire is neither a general public announcement or a direct company associated medium.

Otherwise, I give it marginally better credibility, at best, than rumor.

#178

Look, we need to accept that whatever they DO spend their time doing..

Listening to the average Arduino user or reading "Their" forum isn't it.

#179

I'm not sure where it is but massimo did say in the video that they are going to be updating the website "next week" which is now sometime this week. Although it was referring to "Arduino at heart", I wouldn't put it past them to wait to update the arduino.cc page for the due.

#180

Massimo mentioned how people got the jump on them with Leonardo. I think they are going to get the Due released and update their hardware information at nearly the same time so that no one makes clones before the original is on the market.

#181

cyclegadget: Massimo mentioned how people got the jump on them with Leonardo. I think they are going to get the Due released and update their hardware information at nearly the same time so that no one makes clones before the original is on the market.

I completely understand and agree with these concerns. However, none of that prevents them from taking a couple of minutes to link to the World Maker Faire's YouTube video of the "Arduino Hour" on the official Arduino blog. :P

#182

terryking228: Look, we need to accept that whatever they DO spend their time doing..

Listening to the average Arduino user or reading "Their" forum isn't it.

O so true. I would add: Not even writing a blog entry ( on the release data of the due; without any technical specifications) for which they declined arduino community help stating they have a full time person assigned ]:D

Best regards Jantje

#183

Yes they now have a full-time community guy, he introduced himself on the developer's mailing list a few months ago and we've not heard from him since.

I would have thought the Due release and the huge delay would have been a prime example of where such a person is required, to pour a little oil on the rough waters and at least keep us as informed as possible.

I realise and agree with the (perceived) reasons we've not had any technical details, but the total vacuum on the PR front I don't understand. I've now spend a few $100 on LPC stuff and although I may get a Due and port what I've been doing I may not as well. OK no big loss I guess :) but how many people have wandered off to other platforms for the want of a few forum posts?

Rob

#184

they now have a full-time community guy, he introduced himself on the developer's mailing list a few months ago and we've not heard from him since.

Michael Shiloh. Part time. As of early July. And I'd say he's been relatively active on the developer and teacher lists since then, mostly in the form of acknowledging suggestions on the developers list, and notably setting up the email list for Arduino "Issue" changes quite quickly after it was suggested.

http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,114395.0.html

Perhaps part-time isn't enough. OTOH, I'd suspect that the Due was under a "cone of silence", and "Community Manager" doesn't give him "new product announcement" privileges.

#185

This post on Hack a Day has some more info about the Due: http://hackaday.com/2012/10/03/finally-an-arm-powered-arduino/

#186

[quote author=Louis Davis link=topic=88029.msg943686#msg943686 date=1349295052] This post on Hack a Day has some more info about the Due: http://hackaday.com/2012/10/03/finally-an-arm-powered-arduino/ [/quote]

Thanks for sharing! That post has a link to a pdf with the basic specifications for the Due.

#187

October 22nd is the last release date announced at the World Maker Faire in New York (9/29-9/30). Price: $49. Just when I thought Arduino would miss another commitment, I read it’s been released according to “wired.com”. Can this be true? “Wired.com” is a respectable site. It doesn’t make sense to hear it there rather than here.

#188

It doesn't make sense to hear it there rather than here.

Yes it does, it is probbly an embargoed press release. The USA are still in bed at the moment. I am in the UK and I am still in bed. The wonders of retirement and an iPad. :)

#189

Several sites have been announcing "It's released" before the actual release. Sloppy reporting, if you ask me, but I hope it means that the Due is really going to show up...

Adafruit says "it's not a coming soon product" (for them), which I find a bit troubling. But then, they are all Rasberry Pi "traitors" lately, so perhaps they've fallen off the "preferred provider" list.

#190

Here is the sparse but “official” announcement: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoDUE

#191

Is that link new today ?

Duane B

#192

Well it's been the 22nd for 18 hours now...bugger I'm Australia, sometimes it's good to be ahead of the west, sometimes not :)

Rob

#193

When it does come out, I'm hoping to find a few people who can do an in-depth 3-way review between Arduino Due, Teensy 3.0 and Leaflabs Maple. Anyone can do an "unboxing" or "new products" review with photos, specs and hype (but not actually running any real code). Someone who can actually spend some time running real projects and 3rd party libraries on all 3 and write a detailed article is indeed rare. Any ideas who I should ask?

Of course, so far I can't find any site that claims to have Due for retail sale. Likewise for Maple, except for asian sellers on Ebay.

#194

I give two out of three a little mention here -

I plan on compiling and running some of the code from the rcarduino blog on the teensy over the next week just to confirm portability but nothing that I do really stretches an UNO never mind a Due or Teensy.

For stretching the hardware you should try DIY Drones, thats one area where the size of the teensy will be a major advantage.

EDIT: The main reason I am interested in the Teensy and Due is for audio where speed and 32 bits will have a big impact. The teensy looks interesting for the DSP instructions which may make software filters a possible addition to Arduino audio projects.

Duane B