I need to solder these three components:
- 2 Male/female header pins(2 pins)
- A diode (2 legs)
- 2 hook wires (2 wires)
Any recommendations on how to do it? You know, how to get all 6 tips still and aligned
Marciokoko:
I need to solder these three components:
- 2 Male/female header pins(2 pins)
- A diode (2 legs)
- 2 hook wires (2 wires)
Any recommendations on how to do it? You know, how to get all 6 tips still and aligned
In stages. First attach the diode to the legs of the header. Then attach the hooks to the diode's wires. If they end up too short, stick the soldered header into another one to give it longer legs.
Bend diode like these:
Solder diode to header pins.
Put heat shrink over the diode and header.
OK I welded the hook wire and diode together first...here it is so far. The far weld messed up a bit but it'll hold.
I'm worried the pins on the header are too close:
Hook to diode was neither of our first steps. Do you need to stick anything in the holes?
Do try and remember we are talking in English here and you are soldering or have "soldered" parts together.
Not welding!
Same thing - adhere with molten metal. One is just more exciting than the other.
I don't know if this would help. I would apply a little bit of solder to each leg of the components first. This will make the next step easier. Make sure that you have coated the leads with a lite coating of solder all over. Next you hold the two components in their desired positions and apply just a very small amount of extra solder to the components.
ChrisTenone:
Same thing - adhere with molten metal. One is just more exciting than the other.
Well, not the same thing. "Soldering" refers to using a filler alloy with a lower (eutectic, or near) melting point, to join two metals which do not melt in the process.
"Welding" in English distinguishes the process of melting the actual material itself in order to make the join. The difference is quite important.
ChrisTenone:
Same thing - adhere with molten metal. One is just more exciting than the other.
No, completely different - welding melts the parts to be joined, doesn't require any extra
metal (though often this is used), soldering is using a low temperature metal alloy as glue.
Marciokoko:
I'm worried the pins on the header are too close:
More like due to the way you bent that diode, the leads of the diode are too far apart to weld it to the header. Bend it as in #2, get the leads much closer together, and you shouldn't have a real problem welding it to the header.
Also you probably should use a bicolour wire for the connection, as with a diode polarity matters of course, and after sealing it off with some heat shrink (highly recommended - it protects the weld from both physical damage and accidental electrical contact) you can't tell which lead is which but for the colours.
Another solution: keep the leads on the diode much longer, and bend them together. Then the end of the leads solder to the header, and the yellow wire can be soldered a bit down the diode leads (so you don't meld the first solder joint in the process).
Your soldering skills need a lot of work. I'm not a professional...your skills atm are well below average.
Maybe tin the leads first. This will allow you to work neat. As for the picture of your soldering -D
Paul__B:
Well, not the same thing. ...
MarkT:
No, completely different ...
I know that. In non-English speaking places (I understand there some pockets where civilization has not yet reached) the term weld is sometimes used. In fact, here in 'Merica we have this stuff called "JB Weld". It's actually epoxy glue.
Perhaps it might help if you formed the wires a bit before soldering.
I would:
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Using a needle nose pliers, make a small hook on the end of the diode leads. Slide the hook over the pins you wish to solder to. Crimp the leads tight to the pin.
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Tin** the stripped end of the wire(s). Make a hook like on the diode. If the wire is small you might be able to make a 2 loop hook. I suggest this because the wire will tend to relax once you start to solder and the tinning on the wire starts to melt.
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solder the three items together.
** So as to not be accosted by the terminology police; tin and tinning are slang for adding solder to the stripped strands of wire. If your wire is solid it is not so important but can be helpful by allowing a shorter time for soldering the three items as they are already coated with solder.
Note you want to solder the two sets of three items quickly else the terminal (plastic) base will melt. It helps to put a little solder on your soldering tip then touch the parts to be soldered. Oh and you want to let the first set cool completely before soldering the 2nd set. This is to allow the plastic header base to cool
Additional tips:
- Any movement of the parts during the solder transition from liquid to solid will result in a bad connection.
- You are best learning how to solder using 63/37 tin / lead solder. It has a very narrow temperature range where is is "slushly" and
- turns solid quickly.
- It matters what type of soldering iron you use. If you are trying to use the old "gun" type of irons you will likely have bad results. Most any "pencil" type iron will do for this type of work.
For this particular problem I guess trial and error will work best..... learn by doing, you will figure out what works and what not.
A helping hand is very helpful when soldering.
Thanks.
As for the terminology, we do a lot of welding down here in my uncivilized part of the world and I never realized the parts got melted together. I thought when we welded 2 steel plates together they were joined by the melted rod material, not the combination of the melted rod PLUS part of melted steel plates. But now that I think about it I guess it makes for a much stronger union if the pieces you're joining are actually melted as well.
My tip might have something to do with it but it got this way because I used it in terrible ways. Here's my tip:
Lol get a new soldering iron with interchangeable tips. That there is not done. I would not take that to even if you would give me 10$ with it haha
I'm sure if you can weld you can solder 
But remember the difference, when soldering you want the iron on the joint no more that about 5 seconds. The goal is to heat locally and remove the heat so as to not damage the parts.
As ugly as your soldering tip is, I would guess if you can tin the tip area with solder then you could make these joints.
John