IDE v2.0 Can't update thru OTA without password

chris34000 · September 22, 2022, 6:04pm

Hello,
When I try to update an ESP thru OTA the password is mandatory.
The update button is not enabled without password.
I never set password so I can not use V2

sterretje · September 22, 2022, 6:23pm

What is GUI V2? IDE 2.0?

If it's IDE 2.0 , I suggest that you move your topic to the dedicated IDE 2.0 section.

chris34000 · September 22, 2022, 6:38pm

You're right !
Done,

ptillisch · September 22, 2022, 9:35pm

Hi @chris34000. If you haven't set a password then just put any random characters into the "Password" field of the "Configure and Upload" dialog. The ESP32 board has the capability to have a password set and the Arduino IDE doesn't know whether or not you have one set in the sketch running on the board, so it has to ask you for one regardless.

Arduino IDE 1.x also asks for a password, except it doesn't require the field to be filled as Arduino IDE 2.x does.

Juraj · September 23, 2022, 5:37am

Per
the mdns record is

= wlp58s0 IPv4 esp8266-f0e0c7 _arduino._tcp local
hostname = [esp8266-f0e0c7.local]
address = [192.168.1.113]
port = [8266]
txt = ["tcp_check=no" "ssh_upload=no" "board="ESP8266_WEMOS_D1MINILITE"" "auth_upload=no"]

auth_upload is not handled by IDE 2 (CLI plugable discovery?)

ptillisch · September 23, 2022, 6:33am

No. In Arduino IDE 1.x, the password prompt was a hardcoded special treatment of "network ports". For Arduino CLI and Arduino IDE 2.x, this has been replaced by a generalized "user provided fields" system where a board definition can configure any number of arbitrary inputs for any upload recipe:

https://arduino.github.io/arduino-cli/latest/platform-specification/#user-provided-fields

For backwards compatibility, platforms that have the Arduino IDE 1.x style upload.network_pattern upload recipe and reference a property named network.password in that recipe are automatically configured for a user provided field named "Password":

github.com

arduino/arduino-cli/blob/0.27.1/arduino/cores/packagemanager/loader.go#L426-L430


      
          	if strings.Contains(pattern, "{network.password}") {
          		props.Set("upload.field.password", "Password")
          		props.Set("upload.field.password.secret", "true")
          		pattern = strings.ReplaceAll(pattern, "{network.password}", "{upload.field.password}")
          	}

Even though the properties such as auth_upload provided by the discovery are available for use in the upload recipe, I don't see any way the user provided fields can be configured according to these properties.

Of course the upload tool can adjust its handling of data from the fields that are passed to it according to data from the port properties that are passed to it by the upload command recipe, but that isn't relevant to the subject of the user being prompted to fill the fields during the upload.

chris34000 · September 23, 2022, 10:31am

I tried with random characters but obviously I have an authentication error.
It seems beyond my skills to modify source and recompile.
I understand that it is "work as designed".
Either I will reconnect via USB my 15 or 20 ESPs running on different projects to add a password, or I will just stay on version 1.8.
Thank you anyway for your answers.

ptillisch · September 23, 2022, 10:56am

In order to gather more information that might help us to troubleshoot your problem, I'm going to ask you to post the full output from the upload when in verbose mode.

NOTE: These instructions will not solve the problem. They are only intended to possibly gather some more information about the problem, which might provide a clue that leads to a solution.

Please do this:

Select File > Preferences from the Arduino IDE menus.
Uncheck the checkbox next to Show verbose output during: ☑ compilation
Check the checkbox next to Show verbose output during: ☐ upload.
Click the OK button.
Attempt an upload, as you did before.
Wait for the upload to fail.
You will see a "Upload error: ..." notification at the bottom right corner of the Arduino IDE window. Click the COPY ERROR MESSAGES button on that notification.
Open a forum reply here by clicking the Reply button.
Click the </> icon on the post composer toolbar.
This will add the forum's code block markup (```) to your reply to make sure the error messages are correctly formatted.
Press Ctrl+V.
This will paste the error output from the upload into the code block.
Move the cursor outside of the code tags before you add any additional text to your reply.
Click the Reply button to post the output.

I think the design can be improved. I have also noted the unpleasant user experience of having to add arbitrary text to this field and had it on my "to do" list as something to look into. Your post motivated me to move this a bit farther forward.

Juraj brought to my attention the fact that Arduino IDE 1.x provided a significantly better user experience in this situation by not presenting the password dialog at all when the board was configured for unauthenticated uploads. I never used the network ports feature during my days of working primarily with Arduino IDE 1.x, and never with a real project, so I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area. I have done a fair amount of using it while beta testing the Arduino IDE 2.x network upload system, but apparently I always had a password set in the sketch because I never before noticed this behavior.

I think that the generalized flexible approach taken with the new "user provided fields" system is overall a big improvement that will eventually allow the creators of Arduino boards platforms to do some really cool things. I'm not sure it is possible to achieve parity between the new system and the old one in this particular respect, and I think it is a worthwhile tradeoff in the long run. However, I think the impact of the change can at least be mitigated:

Allow empty fields
Update relevant documentation, including that of 3rd party projects

I have created issues to track those tasks. Since the latter does not involve changes to a repository maintained by the Arduino Tooling Team responsible for the Arduino IDE and Arduino CLI, that issue is in an internal tracker, but the issue for the former is here:

github.com/arduino/arduino-ide

Empty fields not permitted in "Configure and Upload" dialog

opened 10:43AM - 23 Sep 22 UTC

per1234

topic: code type: imperfection

### Describe the problem It may sometimes be necessary to integrate user prov…ided information (e.g., a password) into the command used to upload a sketch to an Arduino board. This capability is provided by the ["user provided fields"](https://arduino.github.io/arduino-cli/dev/platform-specification/#user-provided-fields) system. The Arduino IDE collects the user input for uploads that have "user provided fields" via the "**Configure And Upload**" dialog (https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/pull/550): ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/8572152/188209329-61cf6b16-0a17-4546-bff9-380b986a70b7.png) As a flexible general purpose system, no assumptions may be made about what data is appropriate for the fields. It is the responsibility of each upload tool to validate the data. 🐛 The "**Configure And Upload**" dialog inappropriately requires that the fields not be empty. There are use cases where an empty field is correct and expected. ### To reproduce #### Equipment - Any board that supports unauthenticated upload over a network port. Examples: - Any ESP8266-based board - Any ESP32-based board #### Steps 1. Follow the tutorial to set up your chosen board for uploading over a network port. - **ESP8266-based board:** - https://arduino-esp8266.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ota_updates/readme.html#application-example) - **ESP32-based board:** **File > Examples > ArduinoOTA > BasicOTA** ❗ Do not set a password in the sketch (this is the default configuration of the "**BasicOTA**" example sketch of the "**ArduinoOTA**" library). 1. Wait for the network port to appear in the Arduino IDE ports list. 1. Select the board and port in the Arduino IDE. 1. Select **Sketch > Configure and Upload** from the Arduino IDE menus. **ⓘ** The standard "Upload" will have the same effect on the first upload of the IDE session, sketch, port. **Configure and Upload** is used in the instructions to ensure the dialog will appear even if the demo is repeated. 1. Leave the "**Password**" field empty, as is the intuitive choice when no password is needed. 🐛 The "**UPLOAD**" button is disabled. The only way to accomplish an upload is through the unintuitive user action of adding arbitrary text to the "**Password**" field in order to satisfy the requirement imposed inappropriately by the IDE. ### Expected behavior "**UPLOAD**" button is enabled in the "**Configure and Upload**" dialog even if a field is left empty. ### Arduino IDE version 2.0.0-snapshot-42f6f43 ### Operating system Windows, Linux ### Operating system version Windows 10, Ubuntu 20.04 ### Additional context With the inflexible network port-specific system used by Arduino IDE 1.x, the board could specify that authentication was not required via [an `auth_upload` mDNS record](https://github.com/arduino/Arduino/blob/1.8.19/arduino-core/src/cc/arduino/packages/uploaders/GenericNetworkUploader.java#L51). In this case, the password dialog was never presented in the first place. --- Arduino CLI allows the field to be left empty. --- Example of poor user experience resulting from current prevention of empty fields: https://forum.arduino.cc/t/ide-v2-0-cant-update-thru-ota-without-password/1034657 --- #### Workaround 1. Add any arbitrary character(s) to the optional field. 1. Click the "**UPLOAD**" button. #### Related - https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/1770 ### Issue checklist - [X] I searched for previous reports in [the issue tracker](https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues?q=) - [X] I verified the problem still occurs when using the latest [nightly build](https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide#nightly-builds) - [X] My report contains all necessary details

chris34000 · September 24, 2022, 8:49am

Thank you very much @ptillique.
Just to explain, I live in France (hence my bad English) and I make prototype lamps based on esp32 cards and WS2812 leds. I already have about fifteen lamps distributed throughout my house. Same code for all, even if the functionalities are differents. I have a SPIFFS txt file that I position once and for all in USB and which contain on which device we are.
It's modular, it allows me to fix a bug on global functions without touching 15 different codes.
All that to say that during a global update, I have to change port and launch an upload 15 times in a row. That's also why I removed password on OTA for prototypes.
Luckily I don't do this every day.
That's for the context. You can close the topic if you want, I'll follow next steps on Github.
Thanks again

system · March 23, 2023, 8:49am

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