lemming:
and the second circuit would have 12 volts at the collector of the the transistor
You, but the emitter will always be lower than the base (around 0,7V even). So the emitter can never reach even 5V.
lemming:
and the second circuit would have 12 volts at the collector of the the transistor
You, but the emitter will always be lower than the base (around 0,7V even). So the emitter can never reach even 5V.