making people read the "how to use this forum" before posting.

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I guess I touch a nerve or two. Sorry about that.

Nick glad to meet you for the first time. I love what you have accomplished. I can only guess at the amount of time you put in to this forum and your other web sites. Sorry about the miss spelling, My whole life I heard what a bad speller I was, I was 22 when I graduated high school why? Spelling. I repeat a lot of grades due to bad spelling. Every time you write a paper, points were deducted for miss spelled words. There for even if you wrote a good report I got an F for spelling. I use to turn the volume down on my hearing aid just to stop the teachers constant complaining about my spelling. No that does not mean that every one with a hearing aid is a poor speller, In fact some are quite good. I knew to importance of a high school degree. That's why I hung in there besides high school wasn't that critical about spelling. I went to a vocational school. Where I learn my electrical skills. With my spelling skills I knew collage was out of the question. All through out school I was raze about my spelling than about my age. I guess that's why I develop a thick skin. And don't give up that easy. Sorry I didn't mean to rant on. My only real fault was not to proof read my reply. If that's going to cause me to lose the friendship that I would like to have with you, I'm sorry.

Robin2 I have a great grand son at the ripe old age of 8, he'll run circles around me and a computer. And he knows how to type the right way. I still hut and peck. Yes I know how to cut and paste that wasn't my point. But first let me back up a step.

Why do you have to click on "how to use this forum" twice. First at the start of all the forums than again after it opens. In the first sentence. The first one opens and tells you about registering, then you click on
"how to use this forum" a second time. Them first thing you read is about registering again with some other useful information. So why click twice?

As to how to post your code. I guess from the reply I'm the only one who has a problem with this.

I fail to understand what is wrong with this statement about where I worked.

I would write a new routine or change one. Then I would have to write a detail exclamation as to what to do.

I hope you'll still be there when I need you.

Well I off to enjoy the four of July with my daughters family.

See you when I get back.

Then I would have to write a detail exclamation explanation as to what to do.

Two completely different words with very different meanings. (<--- = explanation)

...R

Hi.

Since you've got grand kids, i guess i can roughly guess your age.
At the time you were at school, students that didn't come along too well were just seen as a hard case at best, or lazy.
Nowadays, you would probably be diagnosed as dyslexic, and your education would be tuned accordingly (well, that's what happens over here in the Netherlands).
I'm also guessing that the mistakes you make while typing messages over here are a combination of that and the guessing games spell-checkers play.

Also, the reason why you have to click twice, is because you will initially be lead to a thread which is located in the section of the forum you were in when clicking for the first time.
In that thread, when you click the second link, you will be lead to a single and much larger thread (so that one isn't present in all forum sections).
There's a difference in links in a forum index page, and that in forum posts (the latter one can lead you anywhere).

Thanks for your lengthy message. :slight_smile:

I'm sure we can all be friendly now. I sympathise with your issues about spelling. With some it is maths, with some it is spelling, and with others it is logic. Personally I am hopeless at drawing but my daughter is very good.

Naneen:
Why do you have to click on "how to use this forum" twice.

The way the forum is organized it is either that, or copy/paste the same post in every section of the forum. And then if a mistake is found, or it needed updating, I would have to update something like 30 forum sections. It was easier to make a single post, and then put a "redirection" post in all the other forum sections.

Hiya Naneen, your spelling/grammer is not a problem. While we all try, everybody makes a typo or simple spelling error at least once in a while! (Sometimes I miss the entire point and reply to the wrong question. HEY! I'm old.) These are the breaks in an online forum. Notice that even some of our most senior and prolific posters misspell 'once in a while'.

If this was a composition class or newspaper, you might need a better proofreader, but as long as we get what you are saying, fine.

I try to avoid mistakes in my speling and gramur. But I also try not to be too precious about other people's spelling and grammar.

However I have often found when proof reading my own stuff that small errors that would be irrelevant in a novel completely confuse a technical sentence about programming.

...R

Boy do I have egg on my face. After your post, I still didn't see the difference. I had to look the word up. Than the blinders came off and i realize that I did use the wrong word.

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Then I would have to write a detail exclamation explanation as to what to do.

Two completely different words with very different meanings. (<--- = explanation)

...R

I was really getting mad about you guys picking on that statement. I thought that maybe you thought I wanted detail explanation as to how to do something. Only after I looked up the meaning of exclamation did I realize what I did.Now I'm laughing.

travis_farmer:
all this talk about posting code makes me wonder if I am wrong to provide long lengths of code in a nicely colored and copy-n-paste compatible PDF.

As far as possible don't require people to download stuff.

If a program is too long to include in a post using [code] [/code] tags then add the .ino file as an attachment.

Better still, write a short program that illustrates the problem :slight_smile:

...R

travis_farmer:
at what point is too big to post in tags?

The website will warn you. I think a complete Post (including code) cannot exceed 9k.

...R

travis_farmer:
at what point is too big to post in tags? Just for future reference.

personally I would think anything over 100 lines is a pain to read inside the little block, so certainly my 1200 line security alarm is a bit of a long read. :wink:

Getting people to download files, in these days of trojans and ransomware embedded in documents, can be a bit fraught. The forum lets you put reasonable lengths of code inside code blocks (you get a nice scroll bar, and a button to "select all" which makes it easy to copy).

A possible alternative it to set up a GitHub account (for low-level users with no requirement to make repositories private, they are free). This has the benefit that you can post multiple files, (eg. .cpp, .h and .ino files). GitHub automatically syntax-colours the code, and has a "raw" button for downloading the actual source. Plus it generates a .zip file for end-users so they can get your entire project as one file.

You also have the benefit that if you make improvements or bugfixes, you can see the history of them, so people can see what you changed. As an example of how it looks, here is my Neopixels library.

Reading stuff on Github is a nightmare. They use a pale grey colour for their text that I find almost impossible to read.

...R

Only the comments, surely.

My only comment on the matter is that, yes, some people can tend to be a little "straight-forward" if that's a decent way to describe the interactions I have had before, but these forums are an absolute trove of information and help if (when) the need arises. I've had very informative interactions with most people on these forums.