Mods you can delete my account

Any mod with the ability to do so, please delete my account. I really can't be bothered with this crap. It's not like Arduino's really important in my life, it's just something I dabble in, so let's just call it a day.

I feel your pain. this new layout makes you work to do anything. you have to scroll down to read what the post is about. and trying to jump to see more, I have jumped around to pages and not just the next few posts.
I have to say that the open forum was nicer than this closed and reduced and limiting one we have been handed.

I hope the moderators have easier access in orders of magnitude as this really did slow down my ability to navigate.

JimboZA:
Any mod with the ability to do so, please delete my account. I really can't be bothered with this crap. It's not like Arduino's really important in my life, it's just something I dabble in, so let's just call it a day.

Please don't go (seriously).

...R

Please don't go (seriously).

+1

Yeah, it will all get sorted, we had problems last time the forum was upgraded but it all settled down after a week or so.


Rob

You really shouldn't go. The forum has gotten much better just overnight here in the U.S. :slight_smile:

JimboZA:
Any mod with the ability to do so, please delete my account. I really can't be bothered with this crap. It's not like Arduino's really important in my life, it's just something I dabble in, so let's just call it a day.

Bit of a knee jerk reaction Jim, just stay away a few days/weeks and they will probably have completely f*cked it up sorted it out by then. Or you could join the rest of us and bitch and moan about it :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Graynomad:
Yeah, it will all get sorted, we had problems last time the forum was upgraded but it all settled down after a week or so.

Actually, the last upgrade never really worked well for me. It was always slow and buggy (following a link to a topic in a notification email results in either a hung blank page or a page that says "You're already logged in" about half the time. That same bug, by the way, persists even today after the upgrade). I just think we all resigned ourselves to the crappyness and got tired of griping about it.

But since we're going through this crap all AGAIN, it's as if the powers-that-be learned nothing from the previous botched rollout. Someone said they tested -- really? 5 topics/posts per page and in REVERSE ORDER? Jumping to the Quick Reply on every page? Guess those subtle little bugs just slipped through in spite of their intensive test suite.

Anyway, if I had my way, we'd roll the forum software back TWO revisions.

I totally understand where JimboZA is coming from -- helping noobs is a thankless enough task on it's own. Throwing in regular forum downgrades is probably not what Arduino needs to retain a healthy contributor community.

tylernt:
regular forum downgrades

Love it :slight_smile:

...R

helping noobs is a thankless enough task on it’s own. Throwing in regular forum downgrades is probably not what Arduino needs to retain a healthy contributor community.

I must admit that when I was “banned” the other day (as were many of us for a while) my first thought was “Oh well, I’m getting a little sick of this anyway”. I have certainly backed of lately and only answer interesting posts these days, I’ve done my time :slight_smile:


Rob

Just watching Arnie in The Expendables, and he was right with the "I'll be back".

But the lack of decent search (not that it was ever really good) is a ballache. I'm trying to find a thread to point someone at...

Was a knee-jerk reaction though, you're right guys.

please delete my account.

You have "added/will add" alot to the forum.
I/we urge you to take a hiatus.
Come back in 2-4 weeks.
I believe things will be normalized by then.

If however there is another forum update in the future others will probably want to leave also.

LarryD:
take a hiatus.

Yep I did that and calmed down.... back now.

(even Nick took a sabbatical)

But the lack of decent search (not that it was ever really good) is a ballache

adding the bold part makes google your best friend (sort of :wink:

google "jimboZA DS3231 site:arduino.cc"

it is way faster than the forum search.

JimboZA:
But the lack of decent search (not that it was ever really good) is a ballache. I'm trying to find a thread to point someone at...

Good to have you back.

Experience has taught me to bookmark things I may want to refer to in the future.

I agree with @Robtillart - that's what I normally do. If I am looking for a Thread I have posted in I put my name in as one of the search terms - does not always work, but often enough

...R

LarryD:
If however there is another forum update in the future others will probably want to leave also.

I just want to say this: I can't be bothered looking at programming questions any more while the code box is limited to 9 lines of code, maximum (at a time). You can't even get the gist of the problem in 9 lines of code, unless it is a snippet which we all know should go to http://snippets-r-us.com/. This used to work in the old forum, why did it have to change?

The font when I am typing stuff in (like this message) is so cramped that lines run into each other and is therefore almost unreadable, but when it appears on the screen in code boxes, it is really widely spaced apart.

I am getting spam notifications which have a copy of the spam (which I don't want to see) but not the reason someone is reporting it (which I do).

I am not getting notifications of replies to my messages.

My avatar disappears if I edit my forum profile (however not to change my avatar).

I can't put a URL in my forum signature, although I used to be able to, and despite raising bug reports and being told that it is working fine.

URLs in messages are not automatically turned into hyperlinks (like they used to) so I have to use the "insert a link" button every time I want to make a hyperlink, which I didn't need to do in the past.

The "scrolling marquee" (move) bbcode is still available, despite requests to remove it.

I can't merge threads (cross-posts) between different parts of the forum.

Managing spam has got much worse, it is a nightmare of multiple-clicks to get rid of it.

The new icons are very obscure, despite apparently passing "user interface" approval.

Graynomad:
I'm getting a little sick of this anyway". I have certainly backed of lately and only answer interesting posts these days, I've done my time

I think we are all starting to feel like that, especially when you fight the new forum. It is a whole swag of bug reports, just to try to get things back to the usable state they were in before.

And one other thing while I am having a whine...

The lag. The forum was quite slow before, so I thought that would be the first thing to be addressed, but from a Basecamp post:

So really, the main thing that was a problem - the lag - is months away from being fixed.

And it looks like the font is as tiny as ever despite them claiming to accepted the request to make it bigger.

This is a good example on how NOT to do a rollout

I thought I had it bad with the way the forum is not working but it sounds like being a moderator has even more of a problem. I will never bother offering my services to moderate again.

What exactly was the justification for upgrading the forum?

Bring back the old forum (but keep these colours) I know it was not great but this is currently worse.

[quote author=Nick Gammon date=1414970005 link=msg=1945973]
I just want to say this: .... [/quote]

I remain convinced that the the sense of frustration underlying your complaints will not be addressed UNLESS and UNTIL there is frequent active participation in this section of the Forum by members of the "team" that is responsible for maintaining and updating it.

I guess what I mean by "frequent active participation" is the high probability that the first person to reply to a Post such as yours will be one of the team and not just another aggrieved user.

But they have been careful to keep their identities secret and I don't know how to persuade them.

@Mastrolinux (Luca) has made some helpful contributions but I don't know where he fits in the pecking order or how much time he has available.

...R

Hi Robin2,

I am now officially the CIO of Arduino, as a team we are going to set the priorities of every piece of software in Arduino for the next coming months. The forum is an important part of our community and we want to put more priority on it than the past.

Indeed my time is limited but I really try to invest at least (but sometimes much more) 1 hour (in work hours or just personally) daily to manage the Forum issues. There are also other people involved in the Arduino team working hardly. We have a lot of softwares running and need to take care of high availability as first and to optimize every piece of the infrastructure. Again is a long process (like the Auth system that needs to be optimized and slows down the Forum). Structural changes always take time but I think with the help of most of them (I really appreciate when users/moderators are kind with us even if they are angry for some issue).

So I invite everyone to be collaborative, even if frustrated, even if you do not feel listened. I can assure we are doing our best to support you. It is a matter of time, skills, number of people involved and many other things, we are doing mistakes because we are doing things, the more the team will have experience the lesser there will be issues.

mastrolinux:
Hi Robin2,

I am now officially the CIO of Arduino,

Indeed my time is limited

Thank you Luca, and congratulations (or should it be commiserations :slight_smile: )
There is an expression (from Rugby football I think) "a hospital pass" - maybe that's what you have been gifted.

I fully appreciate that your time is limited and I hope that you will also get some of your team to play an active part in the Forum to share the workload and gain experience.

...R