Motor Torque

I'm working on an RC vehicle that I want to be able to drive around my garden (uneven grass) at a walking pace sort of speed. So I thought I'd order some high torque low RPM motors from ebay. The ones I ordered were these guys :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-24V-Micro-Gear-Box-Motor-Speed-Reduction-Gearbox-Centric-Output-Shaft/122671122349

(12v 60RPM)

And I am running them from a 3300mAH 7.2v NiMH battery. However, they seem to have very little torque, and when connected to some 120mm wheels, I can very easily stop them with my fingers using very little pressure.

I'm guessing this is because they are under powered? and I should be trying to get closer to the rated 12v? so should I :

  • Double the voltage by using two 7.2v NiMH batteries, giving 14.4v?
  • Use a 12v lead acid battery instead?

The motors I bought also come in a 24v variety. Would that mean they would have more torque? I guess I could used two 12v lead acid batteries?

Or should I be looking into a more substantial motor? I know that windscreen wiper motors and wheelchair motors are usually used for this sort of thing, but I think that would be overkill? is there a 12v motor that is more powerful than what I have but not quite as big and bulky as the above?

For reference, I am planning on using this setup with a FlySky FS-i6 Transmitter/Receiver and a Sabertooth Dual 12A 6V-24V Regenerative Motor Driver.

Take the guesswork out and calculate or measure the torque you actually need. Then buy a gear motor with
a torque rating.

Torque in a gearmotor depends mainly on the gearing.

You need to decide the minimum top speed you can tolerate and determine the motor power from this
and the torque. power (watts) = torque (Nm) x speed (radians/s)

Basically torque is a number (ie 3.5Nm for instance), not an adjective ('high'). "High torque" is marketing
speak meaning absolutely nothing.

yeah - I have been trying to find the torque ratings, but I find they are often not listed :frowning:

And I don't really even know what torque I need? Could anyone give me a rough idea? ball park figure? I appreciate it's a bit vague, but a starting point would be good.

Do you know what torque is? Then you'll understand how it can be measured and calculated...
Noone can give you any kind of a figure unless they know the details of the thing, "RC vehicle"
does not convey any numbers.

Put it this way, imagine walking into a hardware store and asking for "a bolt for my widget", and
expect them to know what size bolt. Same thing, we need the measurements...

Tutorial on force and torque

Use a luggage scale (or some other type) to measure the force required to pull your robot around the garden, with no motors attached to the wheels.

MarkT:
Put it this way, imagine walking into a hardware store and asking for "a bolt for my widget", ..

I was once in the local engineering tool shop when a woman walked in and told the assistant that her husband had sent her in to get a good screw. Needless to say stifled laughs all round.

jackrae:
Needless to say stifled laughs all round.

I'm surprised actually; I'd have expected loud guffaws.

Kudos to the staff for the stifling.

OR... look at the motor and gearbox arrangements in RC cars to see the sort of motor and gearbox you need .