sorry for the confusion, but i believe all the information was in the first post.... just not laid right out in basic terms i did not call it a tix ... i called it a tix clock and i said pov because if i am correct that is the effect i will need to illuminate all the required squares as it cant be done simultaneously, thank you for the education on forum etiquette , but if anyone can at least steer me to a project using a led grid using persistance of vision to update multiple "cells" that i can adapt to my project this would be much apreciated.