Just got a new laptop, Samsung 880Z with Win8. terabye hard drive, very quiet.
Hate win8 already. Installed chrome just to get the forum to open - whatever IE is, opens to a blank screen.
Give me vista anytime.
Might take this back. Edges feel very rough on the fore arms, liked my Son Viao better ergonomically.
Maybe Firefox?
And Windows XP?
Or Ubuntu. 
Chrome is fine. Not loading much software until I finish deciding I don't like the edges or the offset keyboard from the number pad and take this back and get something else.
Win 8 is fine once you get used to the modern/metro interface (which I only use to start desktop apps, I certainly don't use any of the modern apps). I think Win 8.1 brings the start menu back which will be good. I never use IE though. Deservedly, it got a bad rap at first, major fail in educating people to acclimate them. IMHO.
"modern/metro interface"
Is that what microsoft calls their clownification of the interface now?
CrossRoads:
"modern/metro interface"
Is that what microsoft calls their clownification of the interface now?
That's the initial screen with the tiles. I think they prefer "modern" but they may have called it "metro" during development or something, not real sure, there's some kind of story there.
The start button that they give you in 8.1 is just a giant middle finger from the UI department. Theres no menu, clicking the start button just opens up the modern interface with all the tiles.
If you do decide to get a new laptop, go with a Lenovo.
wizdum:
The start button that they give you in 8.1 is just a giant middle finger from the UI department. Theres no menu, clicking the start button just opens up the modern interface with all the tiles.
No kidding. Heck, that's no different than mousing to the lower left corner and clicking. Stupid.
I don't have a Stupid button in the lower left corner of my Windows. How do I get it to display? :~
Riva:
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wizdum:
The start button that they give you in 8.1 is just a giant middle finger from the UI department. Theres no menu, clicking the start button just opens up the modern interface with all the tiles.No kidding. Heck, that's no different than mousing to the lower left corner and clicking. Stupid.
I don't have a Stupid button in the lower left corner of my Windows. How do I get it to display? :~
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You push the mouse pointer off the edge of the screen and wait for a bit for the button to appear. Genius UI design, I know.
The good news is, a lot of the big PC manufacturers are shipping their Win8 machines with a third party start menu already installed.
Riva:
I don't have a Stupid button in the lower left corner of my Windows. How do I get it to display? :~
@wizdum sez it's coming with 8.1 
My son-in-law recommends Mint.
Paul__B:
My son-in-law recommends Mint.
I'm just getting started with it. It looks real good. Put it on an old desktop, standalone, I'd say it was less trouble and faster to install than Windows. Now I'm trying to get a dual-boot setup on a laptop with Win 8 and I'm having one heck of a time. They're both installed but it wants to just run Windows. If I go into the BIOS at startup I can see Mint there and boot it. But GRUB can't see Windows and Windows can't see GRUB. Some things are working less-than-optimal on the laptop, I imagine I may need some drivers.
Always install windows first. Windows can never see GRUB, because Windows is dumb. GRUB usually auto-detects Windows though. It may have something to do with Windows 8 and EFI.
wizdum:
Always install windows first. Windows can never see GRUB, because Windows is dumb. GRUB usually auto-detects Windows though. It may have something to do with Windows 8 and EFI.
Yes it was originally a Windows machine so Win 8 was there first. I do believe EFI is involved. It looks like the machine is in EFI mode but also has legacy (BIOS) support. It tries EFI first, then BIOS. Unfortunately it doesn't look like this priority order can be changed. I'm pretty sure Windows is actually installed for BIOS. So I think GRUB sees EFI enabled, then doesn't go looking for anything else. That's my current theory anyway and there's a good chance I don't know what I'm talking about 
Might have to try EasyBCD or some such utility.
I love win8, it's the first since xp that I've actually liked.
I like the difference between apps and programs, though a touch sensitive mouse helps as I can use gestures to switch between various things - it makes the whole interface much more useable and I don't think I'd have got on with it if I'd only had a traditional mouse.