Proposal: Require >=TL2 to post in "Tutorials" category

[PerryBebbington]

Is it feasible, and if feasible is it desirable, to lock the Tutorials section to everyone at TL0 and TL1, and thus remove one place that noobs use to post questions inappropriately?

There might be other categories where this could apply, but I can't think of any at the moment.

And in anticipation of the question: "what if someone new has this really good tutorial they want to post?"
I answer with: "they do what I did when I came here wanting to post a tutorial about Nextion HMI, they ask the moderators for help".

[anon56112670]

Curious: what so TL0 and TL1 equate to?

[GrandPete]

trust level I guess

[anon56112670]

Yes, but we don't see "tl0" we see "noob" (?)

[PerryBebbington]

Trust level 0, the noobiest noob possible, Trust level 1, which can be achieved like this:

To post images etc you need trust level 1, you can get there by:

• Entering at least 5 topics
• Reading at least 30 posts
• Spend a total of 10 minutes reading posts

Users at trust level 1 can…

• Use all core Discourse functions; all new user restrictions are removed
• Send PMs
• Upload images and attachments

@pert if this is too much off topic I won't object to you deleting it.

[GrandPete]

at least, 1 noob has learnt something

[pert]

@PerryBebbington

Is it feasible

Yes. "See", "Reply", and "Create" permissions can be set per-user group for each category.

This was also previously proposed here:

'Tutorials' by new users

It's now several times a week, sometimes multiple times a day, that some new user posts a question in the tutorial section. Is there a way to prevent someone with fewer than x posts from starting a topic in the tutorial section? Hope springs eternal.

@PerryBebbington

@pert if this is too much off topic I won't object to you deleting it.

I don't think it should be deleted, but I did split it to a dedicated topic.

[J-M-L]

@PerryBebbington

There might be other categories where this could apply, but I can't think of any at the moment.

Definitely applies to tutorials in all languages categories. Would be a win.

[pert]

I have now made a formal proposal for this change:

Require trust level >1 to create topics in tutorials category

• Configure #using-arduino:introductory-tutorials so that only the trust_level_2, trust_level_3, and trust_level_4 user groups have "Create" permissions.
• Provide instructions for users with lower trust level to propose the addition of their tutorials

Feedback on the proposal is welcome. You can use the formal pull request review system or a comment here.

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The "+ New Topic" button will be disabled for users with trust level 0 or 1

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I verified that users with trust level 0 or 1 whose tutorial is accepted will still be able to make edits to their posts after the topic is moved to #using-arduino:introductory-tutorials by a moderator.

[pert]

@J-M-L

Definitely applies to tutorials in all languages categories

I'm happy to make the same configuration changes to curated subcategories in the non-English categories if the community wants it. As usual, I would recommend making a dedicated topic in the non-English category for the proposal to make sure the interested parties have the opportunity to discuss it.

[gpb01]

@pert

I'm happy to make the same configuration changes to curated subcategories in the non-English categories

Thanks Pert, but ...

... in the past I had created a "tutorials" section in the Italian language section (with the old forum this was possible even to a moderator), but ... user participation and interest was nil so ... after some several months, I decided to remove the empty, useless section, so ... I would say that it is fine in the International area, but for the language I follow (Italian), there is no need (at the moment).

Guglielmo

[PerryBebbington]

@pert ,

I have reviewed and approved.

As I don't properly understand how github works it might be the case that I've missed something, if so please tell me. I'm also not sure if I've reviewed the same thing multiple times or reviewed several different parts of the thing.

Thanks,

[J-M-L]

The tutorial section in the French subforum does work

[pert]

The proposed change has now been implemented.

Thanks for your excellent suggestion @PerryBebbington and to all the other participants in the discussion.

[noiasca]

nice that someone thought about to delete the "don't post here" posts also ... just saying

[J-M-L]

Can I ask if we could get the same for the French tutorial section?

Tutoriels et cours

[pert]

I'm happy to do it. Has there been a discussion about it under the Français category?

Please provide the French language equivalent of the title and text of this post:

How to submit a tutorial

This forum category contains a curated collection of tutorials. If you would like to propose the addition of a tutorial you wrote, follow these instructions: Publish your tutorial topic under a relevant normal forum category. The community may now make some suggestions for improvements. You can edit the tutorial contents by clicking the 🖉 icon at the bottom of the post. When the tutorial is ready to submit, click the " Flag" button at the bottom of the topic page. A "Thanks for h…

You are welcome to adjust the procedure according to the preferences of the Français subcommunity. Trust level 3/4 users will also be able to move topics into Tutoriels et cours so the flagging approach is not the only possible method of doing this.

[J-M-L]

@pert

I'm happy to do it. Has there been a discussion about it under the Français category?

I’ll raise it there but I feel everyone will agree. Let me come back to you.