R/C plane - stepper motor or not?

I am toying with getting into model planes after a long absence. What I have in mind is another foray into multi-engines. I have the original plans but imagine electric controlled by Arduino is a better bet than diesel. With this in mind, would stepper motors be the way to go?

Steppers for the main engines, or the control surfaces?

Main engines. I hadn't yet thought down the track to the control surfaces! Thank you

A stepper motor is a terrible idea for the main motor of a plane. They are slow, inefficient and heavy. There is no conceivable reason why you would want to stop a propellor at one of hundreds of specific positions.

I am wondering if a troll has hijacked your identity.

OK. The reason for thinking that way was to keep the steppers in step, nothing to do with stopping the propeller.

Use DC motors - brushless if you want lots of power - just like every other electric R/C flyer. Read the electric flight magazines.

...R

Thanks. This is just a germ..........

There are several brands of toilet cleaner that claim to deal with them :slight_smile:

...R

Robin2 is right. Stepper motors are precise, but slow. They would never achieve the RPMs necessary to propel an aircraft forward.
Also, for your control surfaces, a small hobby servo is probably the best way to go.

A heavy-ish stepper motor might be rated at 10W electrical power input, a brushless
RC motor of 1/5 the weight might be rated at 200W or similar - a significant fraction
of a horsepower out of something the size of an egg...

For flight you need outrunner brushless motor with ESC to drive it and a LiPo pack to
power the thing. No other option comes close to the power/weight ratio really, certainly
steppers are two orders of magnitude out of the running.

Lots of websites out there with more info.

I'm not an expert in steppers, but I have been playing with one for a robotic arm for about two months now. This is what I have learned, cars are built to drive, planes fly, steppers step. Not to be smart, but you can shave your face with a knife, but why? They make great razors for that purpose.

MarkT:
For flight you need outrunner brushless motor ...

Small aircraft can fly with cheap brushed motors.

...R

Oh, those tiny helicopter tail-rotor motors? Yes, tiny tiny aircraft, but not practical for something bigger when heat dissipation becomes a killer, outrunners are very well
ventilated and have good torque for a larger airscrew

MarkT:
Oh, those tiny helicopter tail-rotor motors? Yes, tiny tiny aircraft, but not practical for something bigger when heat dissipation becomes a killer, outrunners are very well
ventilated and have good torque for a larger airscrew

Not really, Mark; I've got the motor, prop, ESC and receiver out of an older styrofoam "park flyer" (it had about a 4 foot wingspan) that I picked up as "junk" at a Goodwill (only worth the servos, motor, esc, etc - the fuselage and wing were trashed) - which used a brushed motor (something like a 380 can, maybe smaller).

Far from small, though certainly not a large R/C aircraft by any means. There were plenty of R/C aircraft prior to low-cost BLDC motors (back when people were still hacking CD-ROM motors to get such things cheaply) that used brushed DC motors...

cr0sh:
an older styrofoam "park flyer" (it had about a 4 foot wingspan) that I picked up as "junk" at a Goodwill (only worth the servos, motor, esc, etc - the fuselage and wing were trashed) - which used a brushed motor (something like a 380 can, maybe smaller).

That's exactly what I was thinking of.

...R