Don't get me wrong, I can totally get behind macros. I used to use them a long time ago. It was so long ago I don't even remember the software that had them but I remember I had probably about 10 or twenty macros I used on a regular basis and they made things much more efficient. I don't use Office much so I probably don't need it but if I did I would use. I have no problem learning macros. I just don't know anything about VBA. I'm sure it's great product for those who need it. I first started using macros back in the dos days when I batch files for everything. That might have been before Windows came along.