I have noticed that if I want to turn on the serial monitor from the tools menu in IDE 2.3.2 I have to click on it twice. If I click on it once nothing happens and I have to click on it again before the monitor appears.
xfpd
February 27, 2024, 3:27pm
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When you hover your mouse over the serial monitor spyglass button, does it (1) change color, and do you see (2) "Serial Monitor" text show to the left and at the same time in a (3) "ALT" text in a yellow box to the right?
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Hi @steveinaustria . Thanks for your report. Something to note is that Tools > Serial Monitor acts as a toggle. If you already have the "Serial Monitor " view open in Arduino IDE, selecting that menu item will close the view. Selecting the menu item a second time will then reopen the view.
My hypothesis is that this toggle behavior might be the explanation for what you are perceiving as needing to "click on it twice". The bottom panel of the Arduino IDE window has a tabbed design, where you can have multiple views open, but only the selected view is visible in the bottom panel. We will typically have both an "Output " view and a "Serial Monitor " view open at the same time. If the "Output " view is selected and you don't notice the presence of the "Serial Monitor " tab, you might not realize that the Serial Monitor is already open and thus be surprised by the fact that it doesn't open after the first time you select Tools > Serial Monitor .
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Thanks. That was indeed the problem!
You are welcome. I'm glad we were able to identify the exact nature of the behavior.
The toggle behavior of the menu item is probably a bit unintuitive. More likely the user would expect the menu item to:
If the view is not already open, open it (as it does already)
If the view is already open, but not selected, select it.
If the view is already open and selected, do nothing.
I don't see anything specific to Serial Monitor, but there is a similar request for Library Manager and Boards Manager:
opened 01:37PM - 29 Jan 21 UTC
type: enhancement
topic: code
When selecting the "Board Manager..." menu item in the Tools menu, it acts as a … toggle: if the board manager is not visible it will show it, but if it's visible it will hide it. This may be a confusing behavior, because it's likely that if a user selects that menu item they always want to access the board manager (which can be in turn closed very easily from the GUI). As an alternative, a common UX pattern for menu items acting as toggles is to change their labels from "Show x" to "Hide x" and viceversa, but I'm not sure we want that.
<img width="744" alt="Screenshot 2021-01-29 at 14 37 34" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/594957/106281483-8f34dc80-623f-11eb-8206-980e6b8301a3.png">
**Version used:**
Version: 0.1.3-snapshot.8b47ce6
Date: 2021-01-28T09:48:49.137Z
CLI Version: nightly-20210128 alpha [283036fc]
The behavior should become more intuitive if the developers ever get around to moving Serial Monitor to a dedicated window:
opened 07:48PM - 29 Mar 21 UTC
type: enhancement
topic: code
topic: serial monitor
### Describe the request
Allow **Serial Monitor** to be placed in a dedicated… window separate from the primary Arduino IDE window.
🙂 It will be possible for the user to control the display location of the Serial Monitor separately from the primary Arduino IDE window according to their needs and preferences.
🙂 This will provide feature parity with the Arduino IDE 1.x Serial Monitor.
### Describe the current behavior
Serial Monitor is a view in the bottom panel of the primary Arduino IDE window.
🙁 It is not possible to move Serial Monitor to a separate screen in order to dedicate all space on the primary screen to the Arduino IDE editor.
### Arduino IDE version
#### Original report
2.0.0-beta.4
#### Last verified with
2.0.1-snapshot-32d904c
### Operating system
All
### Operating system version
Any
### Additional context
The requested "tear off" capability would probably make sense for other windows ("**Output**" view) too.
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#### Workaround
1. Select **File > New Sketch** from the Arduino IDE menus.
A new Arduino IDE window will open.
1. Select **Tools > Serial Monitor** from the Arduino IDE menus.
The "**Serial Monitor**" view will open in the bottom panel of the Arduino IDE window.
1. Hover the mouse pointer over the top border of the bottom panel.
The mouse pointer will change into a resize icon.
1. Click and drag the border up until it reaches its maximum height.
You can now use that Arduino IDE window solely for Serial Monitor, switching back to the other Arduino IDE window to do sketch editing, compile, upload, etc. operations just as you would do with the Arduino IDE 1.x Serial Monitor.
#### Additional requests
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-810073157
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-813597014
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-850550857
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-983961342
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1006024396
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1034829176
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1068087883
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1195300991
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1247730828
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1247930105
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1257039691
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1382677544
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1399304977
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/289#issuecomment-1399421191
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/1799
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/1268
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/755
- https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues/2131
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/making-the-serial-console-a-dockable-screen-again/1079586
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/ide-2-0-3-undocking-serial-monitor/1063170
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-ide-usb-serial-terminal-issues/1049458/13
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/how-to-get-all-my-1-18-19-libraries-installed-in-2-0-1/1050248/3
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serialmonitor-74880-baud-rate-in-ide-2-0-1/1046886
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/windows-the-serial-monitor-window-needs-to-pop-out-please/1036538
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/using-v-2-0-serial-monitor-print/1034093
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-2-0-0-macos-unexpected-differences/1033549
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/2-0-keyboard-shortcuts-dont-work/1033105/11
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-ide-2-0-0-available-for-download/1031651/17
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/1
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/3
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/4
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/15
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/changing-ide-fonts/1028827
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-issues-hopefully-fixed-before-release/1026548
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-seperate-window/1022661/1
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-seperate-window/1022661/2
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-seperate-window/1022661/5
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/automatic-build-external-screen-for-serial/1013958
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-with-new-ide/1010684/10
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/ide-2-0-rc5-serial-monitor-problems/978293
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-characteristics-fail/943590
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/how-to-dock-serial-monitor/942477
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/how-to-dock-serial-monitor/942477/12
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/no-support-for-esp32-boards-manager-2-01/940115/5
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/first-impressions-and-comments/930873
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/missing-serial-monitor-and-serial-plotter/924262
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-2-0-has-too-many-problems/1100602
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-2-0-has-too-many-problems/1100602/13
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/missing-baud-rate-dropdown-v2-0-4-ide/1105972
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/arduino-2-04-stuck-in-splash-screen/1107587/11
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/16
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- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-double-window-problem/1112463
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/18
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/ide-2-1-i-am-not-happy/1142471
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/ide-2-serial-monitor/1146303
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-a-separate-window/1031455/26
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/i-miss-my-separate-serial-monitor-window/1163606
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/cannot-upload-to-ftdi-megas-only/1170683
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/your-reason-for-not-switching-to-the-2-x-ide/1176322
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/your-reason-for-not-switching-to-the-2-x-ide/1176322/23
- https://forum.arduino.cc/t/serial-monitor-in-separate-window-larger-font-etc/1204423
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- https://twitter.com/DevReliefFred/status/1696610597171773571
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### Issue checklist
- [X] I searched for previous requests in [the issue tracker](https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide/issues?q=)
- [X] I verified the feature was still missing when using the latest [nightly build](https://github.com/arduino/arduino-ide#nightly-builds)
- [X] My request contains all necessary details
After that, Serial Monitor should have the same behavior as Serial Plotter, which is not toggled by the menu item.
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August 25, 2024, 5:51pm
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