What happened to the "users should post code in a post"

So for years we have been hammering new users that they should post code on the forum and not on pastebin or attach etc.

What happened with that? Replies from the more experienced users nowadays often point to code on wokwi. Don't the old rules apply anymore? Or don't they apply to the more experienced users?

Quod licet iovi non licet bovi ??

I don't have anything against wokwi but would like to ask to post the code in a reply as well.

Thanks in advance.

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I'm probably sloppy about it, but I like posting the code in a post when I post the wokwi link so I don't have to worry so much about version control and multiple sketches in Wokwi.

Wokwi's UI seems to be just one long, slow-loading gallery of icons, sorted chronologically by modification time and tagged with non-unique keys. I don't want to maintain lots of crufty junk in my list, so I might make changes to the one I link to a topic, but rely on code in the topic's posts as a sort of version control.

@sterretje I agree 100%.
If someone writes a sketch to explain or ask something, then that sketch should be included here on this forum. A link to somewhere else on the internet is not good enough.

Some are a 'little' over-enthusiastic about :heart: Wokwi :heart: and who can blame them :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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For me there is a difference whether I'm asking a question - then I have to provide the code in code tags or if I'm answering a question - and then I can do what ever I think helps the TO. When I invest my spare time for others - don't force me to invest more time than needed to answer something.

However, I think most of my posts with wokwi links have also a final sketch in code tags at least one final sketch if there was some conversation with the TO back and forth ...

@noiasca

If you provide an answer in a topic that I would like to participate in and you only provide a wokwi, you force me to go there to view / download so I know what you suggested.

I am guilty... (but) my reasons are (1) I feel the OP should be the code poster, editor, re-poster and my code would be crowding the thread... (2) I use a wokwi link for OP's reference as an alternative (working) method of OPs (non-working) code without over-riding the OPs posted code and (3) sometime "bells and whistles" can be the epiphany on alternative methods.

I am not trying to justify my laziness or sloppiness, and not trying to move away from the standard.

Good questions.

A motivation for hosting here is to make the code easier to access for those trying to help. Attached requires detaching just to see it. Same for some off-site placements.

Some of the off-sites require an account. Same argument as above applies. Why burden those trying to help?

Some of the off-sites have had malicious content like a Trojan horse. The moderators have an obligation to protect the community from things like that.

Some of the off-sites have advertisements that are patently offensive.

One off-site had a license agreement that claimed ownership over hosted material. Yeah. That's a non-starter.

In my case I got fed up wasting time vetting each one then occasionally getting berated for "Being so stupid! There's nothing wrong with X! I use them all the time!"

The caveat with hosting material off-site is the potential for broken links. If Wokwi restructures, goes offline, decides external links are verboten then posts / threads referring to that material can become useless.

If hosting material is useful, if it helps those who need help get help, and it doesn't cause too many problems then I'm in favour of it.

Since I lost the mod status I am no longer wandering the net as I used to have good reason for it.
Now not as much as I have no reason to look at what people say they have for code etc. etc.
Even less so as a lowly TL2.

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