What is happening with people ?

[noobmastha]

What is happening with people ?
More then 50% of topics, where people ask for help here don't have the code or schematic,
everyone is acting like the people trying to help them have a crystal ball and see what they wrote in the code, what board they are using, how they connected it, what they use for power supply etc.
It is frustrating (at least for me) to ask for every detail, there are countless examples of topics with 20 posts, back and forth, just to get to the point...
I see this in over and over in life too, not only in forums, I think that all this technology and "smart" devices, are making people non-thinkers and soon we'll be living in "Idiocracy" movie!

[Antmajgra]

@noobmastha

More then 50% of topics, where people ask for help here don't have the code or schematic

Maybe you're telling the truth. I'm new here and I think most of the people asking for help are new too. They probably don't know that to help someone they need a schematic
and code.

[camsysca]

@Antmajgra

They probably don't know that to help someone they need a schematic
and code.

But that's because they don't read, or appreciate, that the How-to advice is for their benefit. So, after a couple of requests have gone unanswered, I simply mute them and move on. It's not helpful, but otherwise I get cranky.

[LarryD]

@noobmastha

What is happening with people ?

• Hasn’t it always been this way ?
  

[Geek_Emeritus]

they get expectations from other forums that do not work out well here. they come from a cub scout background and land in boot camp.

[hmeijdam]

@noobmastha

and soon we'll be living in "Idiocracy" movie!

LOL
You'd be surprised how often I have thought that this is the case already looking at the morons that get elected by other morons.

Ignoring them is the solution for me. No decent question = no answer.

[Grumpy_Mike]

@noobmastha

soon we'll be living in "Idiocracy" movie

I thought we already were?

Eric Idle had it right when he sang
"and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
because there's is bugger all down here on Earth"

[noobmastha]

No, at least it wasn't so obvious like today, I'm feeling sorry for new generations.

[noobmastha]

Yes, I do that in life in general, but the number is increasing fast and that is concerning IMHO.

[mrExplore]

I feel your pain.

@noobmastha

... and soon we'll be living in "Idiocracy" movie!

It was a revelation when I watched that movie, it is happening...

Sorry I can't elaborate but I have some important tiktoks to view now...

[jeremy97469]

I believe that the intelligence of people has not really changed much in recent millennia. The recent history of public education and the focus of it on training factory workers and office employees has changed the mindset of the general population to not think things through for themselves.

Critical thinking skills (evaluate sources, personally solving problems/puzzles, and critiquing all information) have been replaced by expectations for trusted sources to provide all required information. Can we fix this?

[cedarlakeinstruments]

People get into Arduino expecting everything to be easy, with cookbook instructions that spell it all out in detail.

In the past, people doing stuff like this were more technically-minded and used to looking stuff up on their own and would only post on forums when they were truly stuck, so it was easier to help them. These days, this may be their first attempt at something technical, so they don't even know what they don't know.

[edit]
Also, it's near the end of semester. It always gets worse at this time because you get all the students who have done nothing all year and are now desperate to complete the project that they should have started months ago. They don't have "time" to learn: they just need someone to spoon feed them all the information at once.

[noobmastha]

@jeremy97469

Critical thinking skills (evaluate sources, personally solving problems/puzzles, and critiquing all information) have been replaced by expectations for trusted sources to provide all required information. Can we fix this?

Yes, so called "specialized idiots"
The problem is , as time goes by, nobody will be aware there is a need for fixing in the first place.

[runaway_pancake]

There's been a spate of "HX711 - not working".

[jeremy97469]

@noobmastha

The problem is , as time goes by, nobody will be aware there is a need for fixing in the first place.

I doubt that will happen. There will always be helpful people frustrated by people asking for help who don’t think enough about their needs to clearly express their problem.

[xfpd]

Stone soup.

[groundFungus]

@LarryD

Hasn’t it always been this way ?

The over 6 years that I have been active here it has been the same. New users refuse to read and follow the guidelines that would make using the forum easier. It seems a lack of patience. But it almost always takes longer as we slowly drag out the information that we need (if we decide its worth the trouble).

[feraltek]

So, I know about cooking because I eat every day, duh, like. But our teacher gave us a resipee to do and I put it in the microwave but don't know what to set the buttons to. Tell me. I need it for tomorrow.

[Grumpy_Mike]

@noobmastha

The problem is , as time goes by, nobody will be aware there is a need for fixing in the first place.

Read "The Machine Stops" by E. M. Forster.
Considering it was written over 100 years ago, it is one of the most accurate predictors of the future.

Spoiler alert, if you want to know the plot then look up the wikipedia page on it.

But it is a great chilling read. It is only a short story and so appears in many compilations.

[JCA34F]

Seems to me (age 76) the average mental age of the US population has fallen below 25.