We had "group" pushed and we had pushy groups but since the 70's has it gotten pushier?
Maybe this is why we get so many of the kind of requests we do if the new round hole for square pegs doesn't teach the ability to learn for yourself. It was bad enough in my time not to be "the right shape". Downright painful at times. I think of what she says in that talk and so much dysfunction becomes clear.
School is pretty worthless for most intelligent people anyway. They train you to do what you are told, respond to the sound of a bell, and bog you down with busywork. Most of the knowledge that I did manage to scrape from my grade-school (and even early college) experience, was due to good instructors that went above and beyond their simple coursework.
My school was just starting to try this when I graduated. Too much emphasis is based on group work, when we need to be teaching students to think independently. You form your ideas, figure out your plan, and THEN seek out other people that can help you accomplish your goals, but only if the additional members will add something to the project. Forcing students to work in groups just adds extra overhead, encourages social loafing, and forces you to find uses for the people you are stuck with.
I'm Gen X and yeah, we did have "group" projects in school but they were still fairly infrequent. But when you consider that the vast majority of schoolwork favors the introvert I think it's perfectly reasonable to structure some projects to favor extroverts.
I consider myself a "cynical introvert"; I like to listen to others and then try to rip up their theses. Sometimes I come to a conclusion that the solution is different than what is being put forward and sometimes I don't. That's just how I work, and without an extrovert's opinions to work from I don't think I'd work as well.
Chagrin:
Sometimes I come to a conclusion that the solution is different than what is being put forward and sometimes I don't.
Many times when I have "done the impossible" it's been because the real problem was different than what was being put forward. But after a certain amount of debugging, it is no surprise.
There is also this quote which often applies:
For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong
-- H. L. Mencken, Mencken's Metalaw
Very good and interesting speech, actually. Food for thought. While she did an absolutely super job, she impressed me as being maybe just a bit uncomfortable. Power of suggestion perhaps, or maybe it just takes one to know one
The problem of course is here on the Internet no one is allowed to be an introvert. Couple that with the anonymous nature we all enjoy on the web and you get a rather poor representation of what people are really like and how they would normally act. We instead get to be as dumb as we like and brag about it.