Which relay board (and the difference between the two?)

Hey guys-..

I am looking to get a 8 channel relay board to toggle/control some 12v water solenoids:

I found these two 8-channel boards on EBAY..

Questions are:

1.) which relay board to get? (will be using an Arduino for control and a computer PSU for the 5v & 12v lines in my project)

2.) what are the differences between these two (one states without octocoupler)

5V/8 channel relay board:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-8-Channel-Relay-Module-Board-For-Arduino-AVR-PIC-MCU-DSP-ARM-KY/112788616422?hash=item1a42b9b4e6:m:mWYVivg7k7tZ5i4sGFnmJeg

5V/8 channel relay board #1 w/o octocoupler?

  • if you cant see it in the link as is, its the #1 item in the drop down/options in the auction

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-1-2-4-8-Channel-Relay-Board-Module-Optocoupler-LED-for-Arduino-PiC-ARM-Lot-H1/253531844216?hash=item3b07acee78:m:mVxy1WAIg8SNr3rssuJnt3Q

If neither of these are ok.. what is suggested?

Thanks

The first one is OK (based on image); the image shows optocouplers. And it definitely has a JD jumper that you need for proper opto-coupling.

Now the big question obviously is if the image reflects the actual product. If not, you have a problem.

I do not buy from ebay; rather pay a little extra to support the local (web or b&m) stores and have the option to ask questions before buying.

If I were doing that, I would buy an optocoupled board with 12V relays instead of 5V since you already have a 12V supply. 5V relay coil current is about 75 mA, (8 X 75 = 600 mA), so you will need a 5V supply of at least 1 Amp, 12V coil current is only about 32 mA.

(sorry noob in that area, and is the first time I'm using a relay)..

I thought the 5v was what I needed to be 'triggered' by the Arduino *(5v platform)

One like this has 12V relays but is triggered from 5V, low true (relay is energized when pin is LOW), just be sure it's wired correctly.

p5UBRLY.png

Whew! Long holiday.. and work finally settling down now that I'm back..

Thank you..

(also thank you for the PM from a member who gave this link: File:OptoRelayChannelDataE2.jpg - ArduinoInfo)

@outsider

So I'm clear.. the item you link to can be controlled 'DIRECTLY' from an Arduino pin... correct? (just want to make sure I read & understand your comment correctly)

'Wired correctly'....

From a quick glance.. it seems pretty straight forward... (following your image on how to wire it of course)

Thanks.. I'll be ordering it tonight. :slight_smile:

update:

If I was looking to purchase from EBAY for example...

Would this be the same model? (as long as wired per your diagram?)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-8-Channel-Relay-Module-with-Optocoupler-Relay-Controller-for-Arduino/223104693598?epid=17003474961&hash=item33f213755e:g:VxcAAOxyepRRw-zq:rk:1:pf:0

  • Already have some stuff in my checkout/basket/.... (and its a cheaper)

update 2:

Looking at your wiring diagram I want to confirm my set-up use wont be an issue..

I will only have 1 power source... but it is a PSU form an old PC.. that gives 5v & 12v..

  • 5v rail/output will be powering the Arduino..
  • 12V rail/output will be connected to the Relay board...

Will that be a problem then? (noise? risk of blowing Arduino or pin?)

Looks OK to me, as long as your 12V PS can supply enough current for all your valves.

xl97:
So I'm clear.. the item you link to can be controlled 'DIRECTLY' from an Arduino pin... correct?

Indeed. There is the point of the opto-couplers - the connections to the Arduino, running at 5 V, are completely separate from the connections to the relays, running at 12 V.

xl97:
If I was looking to purchase from EBAY for example...
Would this be the same model? (as long as wired per your diagram?)


Link corrected - removed "?" and all the garbage following from eBay link.

If it looks the same, it will be the same, whoever is selling them, they will all be made in the same sweatshop in China.

Interesting question: there are an awful lot of sellers on eBay, though they seem to use the same graphics for the same item and we know that many that look similar are simply in different rooms or "cubes" in the same warehouse and often members of the same family. Just how many different assembly "shops" are there actually assembling the various Arduino and similar electronic modules?

xl97:
Already have some stuff in my checkout/basket/.... (and its a cheaper)

As above, most unlikely to be different quality.

xl97:
I will only have 1 power source... but it is a PSU form an old PC.. that gives 5v & 12v..

  • 5v rail/output will be powering the Arduino..
  • 12V rail/output will be connected to the Relay board...
    Will that be a problem then? (noise? risk of blowing Arduino or pin?)

The "risk" is really only of making a wiring mistake. The 5 V line on a PC power supply is likely rated at 30 A or so, so it can easily vaporise a PCB track or component.

Note that the disk drive connectors on a PC supply have two black wires coming separately from the power supply (and the main connector has a number of black wires). They actually connect to the same pads on the PCB of the disk drive but to obtain the full benefit of the opto-isolation you can use one black wire for the Arduino ground (which does not need to connect to the relay board) and the other for the ground to the relay board to match the 12 V.

Be careful with PC power supplies.

Some of them fail to regulate the 5v properly if the 12v isn't under at least a light load, due to cost-saving design decisions.

Noted!

Thanks for all the feedback guys!

Ordering tonight. :slight_smile:

Another step forward in my LONG project.. LOL