Wireless datalogger ??

i want to build a mobile data logger that can transmit the data up to say 800 meters

i want to transmit speed
gps location

is there a board that is wireless enabled so i can use it to transmit the data ?

do i need to use a walkie talkie to transmit the data

i want to build an android interface to read the data

can a android phone read the wireless information direct from an arduino

is there a verion of xbee that is powerful and can transmit long distances

it early days and i wanted to look at what technology is available before i commit to a design

thanks in advance

Data transmitter over that sort of range reliably is not easy, especially if its not Line Of Sight, I.e buildings in the way.

Most ISM band systems would not be suitable.

Have you considered using gsm mobile data.

Re Arduino to Android
Use Bluetooth serial data

does the GSM system require a mobile phone sim card and a contract ?

can bluetooth be boosted so the tx is high power ?

this might do the job -- http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/2KM-Long-Range-RF-link-kits-w-encoder-and-decoder-p-321.html

does the GSM system require a mobile phone sim card and a contract ?

Yes.

can bluetooth be boosted so the tx is high power ?

No. AFIK, there are no Bluetooth devices with the sort of range you are looking for. Long range for bluetooth is 100m. Normally bluetooth is intended to be very short range e.g 10m

this might do the job -- http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/2KM-Long-Range-RF-link-kits-w-encoder-and-decoder-p-321.html

Well you could buy one and test it.

BTW. I forgot to ask. Does this system need to be legal?
Use of high power transmitters on ISM band e.g. possibly the one you linked to, is not legal in most countries as it interferes with everyone else using the same ISM band.
i.e the device you linked to is a simple AM (OOK) and will be on 433.92Mhz, like every other wireless door bell, wireless thermometer, wireless power meter etc etc in your area, so could disrupt their operation

Gadget999:
is there a verion of xbee that is powerful and can transmit long distances

The various "pro" models can transmit up to a mile or two.

thanks for the information guys

the device will be used on a race track so i guess it will get a lot of engine noise and could interfere with normal rf devices ( imagine every doorbell going off for 2km ! )

the xbee looks like a very nice solution some of them are quite powerful

is the xbee a secure method of transmission ? can somebody snoop on the data being transmitted ?

i only need the transmitter to be powerful - the rx will only receive data - can you mix a weak and a powerful xbee ?

basically i want to transmit rpm g force and speed

can you mix a weak and a powerful xbee ?

Like putting a rubber band in place of a chain link. Yes, you can do that, but why would you? If the "powerful" has a range of 2 miles and the "weak" one has a range of 12 feet, then when used together the range is 12 feet.

is the xbee a secure method of transmission ? can somebody snoop on the data being transmitted ?

Relatively, yes. And probably. But, if you are using API mode, then it could be challenging to make sense of the data. If you use AT mode, you can encrypt and decrypt the data using whatever methods you like.

basically i want to transmit rpm g force and speed

And this needs to be secure? Paranoid?

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can you mix a weak and a powerful xbee ?
Like putting a rubber band in place of a chain link. Yes, you can do that, but why would you? If the "powerful" has a range of 2 miles and the "weak" one has a range of 12 feet, then when used together the range is 12 feet.

can an xbee operate in tx mode only so it does not need to find the rx before it transmits ?

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is the xbee a secure method of transmission ? can somebody snoop on the data being transmitted ?
Relatively, yes. And probably. But, if you are using API mode, then it could be challenging to make sense of the data. If you use AT mode, you can encrypt and decrypt the data using whatever methods you like.

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basically i want to transmit rpm g force and speed
And this needs to be secure? Paranoid?

the information could be very valuable to a competitor !!

the information could be very valuable to a competitor !!

If they stole your car, too. Knowing what g-forces your car is encountering/resisting seems useless information without knowing HOW you are managing that.

Knowing what RPM you are at? How is that useful?

There are many ways to get the speed of a car on a track. You can hardly expect to keep that a secret.

can an xbee operate in tx mode only so it does not need to find the rx before it transmits ?

No. Point to point XBees need to associate before they can transmit. The transmitter (car) needs to be able to transmit to the receiver (pits?), and the receiver (pits?) needs to be able to transmit to the transmitter (car).

PaulS:

the information could be very valuable to a competitor !!

If they stole your car, too. Knowing what g-forces your car is encountering/resisting seems useless information without knowing HOW you are managing that.

Knowing what RPM you are at? How is that useful?

There are many ways to get the speed of a car on a track. You can hardly expect to keep that a secret.

the information is not for a car - you could be able to go and look at the tyres and then work out which ones give the best g forces from the data ! the revs min and max together with the lap times and track location will let a competitor know which gear ratios work best

the information is not for a car

What else has tyres and RPM and g-forces and operates on a track?

Never mind. It makes no difference. You can, if it makes you feel good, encrypt the data before sending and decrypt it after receiving.

Gadget999:
is the xbee a secure method of transmission ? can somebody snoop on the data being transmitted ?

XBees can do 128-bit AES encryption. For details, XBee product manuals can be downloaded from digi.com and there are probably other resources like application notes there as well.

i only need the transmitter to be powerful - the rx will only receive data - can you mix a weak and a powerful xbee ?

Even if the data flow at the application level is one-way, the modules still communicate in two directions in order to send acknowledgements and other network overhead. As others have noted, mismatched modules will work, but range will be limited to that of the lower power module.

anyone tried one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APC220-Wireless-serial-Data-Module-with-USB-Adapter-Kit-for-Arduino-/141249212633?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item20e31bf0d9

actually looks quite neat

basically it will replace the cable between pc and arduino

another one here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-TTL-3DR-Radio-Telemetry-Kit-/121298398685?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item1c3df2addd

and here

http://store.linksprite.com/wireless-intercom-walkie-talkie-shield-for-arduino-pcduino/

anyone tried one of these

Yes. Though I can't recall there being any success stories. Perhaps you'll get lucky.

As for the second one, there are NO details on that site. You'd be buying a pig in a poke. Not my cup of tea.

And the third one? You can buy two proven, easy to use XBees that just work for that price.