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That's sad.
Discourse says:
On the technical side, the features we’ll be requiring including relative color syntax, subgrid, and lookbehind regex, all of which will enable improved experiences for Discourse users.
Which were added to Chrome in 2023 and Firefox in 2024, which seems "very recent" to be removing support for older versions...
That is sad. There goes my tablet access (which the company that made it could upgrade, but has chosen not to). Oh well. When my desktop browser inevitably gets the chop and I've no way of accessing the forum, the bright side is I'll have more time for other things.
The same here ... but with an iMac ... where I still use Mojave for backward compatibility with a number of applications that I have in 32-bit (whose manufacturer has disappeared and is no longer being updated, or whose manufacturer has been acquired by another company that now wants me to pay for a new license again, even though the license was perpetual ).
I think it's kind of them to offer the alternative route, learn more. So you don't have to upgrade the browser after all!
This is usually what my bank do, obsolete my hardware (thank you my bank since new hardware cost me money, which you have but won't share).
From Discourse thread But worth noting: both Chrome and Firefox are ‘evergreen’ browsers. The vast majority of users are automatically kept on the latest versions.
Yeah evergreen if you have a newer OS.
My computer is up to date, but I still think it's sad for those who must upgrade or "learn more" (learn less), this relentless escalator that's called progress.
I'm pretty old, so I have seen many "browser obsolescence" issues so I think it's part of the "IT evolution". Most of the incompatibilities are related to security and vulnerability issues later discovered, and in this case I can do nothing than agree with some version bans.
So aside from this, other compatibility ones are linked to deprecated functionalities so some scripts or outputs won't work correctly anymore. That's sad but it's ok if the target site is still usable (even with some quirks or glitches).
Another thing is if the browser is completely missing features that prevent the correct use of the site/service, and such features have been around for many years, so those who still use very old browsers may have problems.
In that case, as in the first, there is not much to do if you cannot update your browser.
It's sad but it's IT, baby.
It is not just the browser versions but also the OS you are running!.
I am hopping mad about this. This is because my Mac is running on macOS Mojave 10.14.6.
I was keeping it on this because it is the last OS that supported 16 bit applications before it changed to 32 bit only. That means that many of my payed for apps like Microsoft Office suite will cease to work. And more importantly Hairless will not be able to be used anymore. Giving a restricted disadvantage for any Mac User.
So Sh1t what a sacrifice. Especially as discourse was touted as being of great advantage to the forum. This stinks.
Well, a bit of nonsense here: why you use Mac and buy Microsoft stuff? Tsk tsk...
Ok, just kidding, so I understand it's a pain in the neck, but that's why on my personal PCs I was used to work with LibreOffice (when I had to work with local files only) and, later, with Google apps not requiring anything except a browser (I also use ChromeOS..).
I know they aren't 100% Office compatibile ("thanks" to Microsoft, not adpting the already existing open document standard...), but unless required for conditions I don't know about, I suggest you to move to one or both.
I know almost nothing about Apple (great and well designed hardware but, sorry, I hate such a "closed" environment...), but I was wondering if you upgrade to a modern OS, are you sure you can't create a 16 bit OS VM on that 32 bit OS virtual environment and use your bl**dy Office there?
Or I seem to see there are (legal!) activation keys for Office 2019 for Mac at less than 20 bucks so you just need to take out your wallet... Don't be stingy, you payed a Mac a lot of dollars, now give some money to poor Microsoft too!
PS: I have never, ever, bought Office (neither legal nor "cracked" it in any way), I endorse free and open source software when I can.
OK so I spend a bunch of cash on a new iPad Mini. The old system stopped working but I could still contribute. Now all of a sudden, the other day I noticed that the old stuff started working again.
I went on the Discourse page and read the last half dozen posts in the original announcements and could find nothing about the switch off and on again.
Hi @Grumpy_Mike. I'm glad that your ability to continue to access the forum is ensured.
What exactly do you mean by "stopped working"? Do you mean your old Mac stopped working completely, or only that it stopped working with Arduino Forum?
I only know what was announced by Discourse in April:
this change will go into effect in Discourse versions shortly after the next major release.
They haven't made a new major release since the announcement, so as far as I know, the planned change that will cause the loss of compatibility with outdated browser versions has not yet occurred. So it is not expected that users of those browser versions will currently experience any problems using Arduino Forum.
It is not uncommon for releases of software project to be delayed past an approximate date that was planned months in advance. In this case, it would be wise for them to use a best case scenario for the date they announce, since if the change ended up being made prior to the announced date it would be a problem for forum operators who made plans based on the announcement.
It stopped working in that trying to access the forum resulted in a whole lot of strange large bold graphics appeared that to paraphrase Douglass Adams, looked totally, but not quite entirely unlike, a forum response.
As I was resigned to the fact it was gone, I didn't bother taking a screen shot. Any way now it (old forum access) is back again I will take a screen shot of what it looks like when if goes away so you can see.
The original quote from Douglass was:-
“He had found a Nutri-Matic machine which had provided him with a plastic cup filled with a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea. The way it functioned was very interesting. When the Drink button was pressed it made an instant but highly detailed examination of the subject’s taste buds, a spectroscopic analysis of the subject’s metabolism and then sent tiny experimental signals down the neural pathways to the taste centers of the subject’s brain to see what was likely to go down well. However, no one knew quite why it did this because it invariable delivered a cupful of liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea. The Nutri-Matic was designed and manufactured by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation whose complaint department now covers all the major landmasses of the first three planets in the Sirius Tau Star system.”
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